Any NCIS fans here?

[cjwalker]

Hey, no thread-jacking. Stick to the topic, y'all.

Yeah, I'm a long-time fan of NCIS. Saw it all. You're not catching the fact that the blonde super-smart probie is a Giblet from the start. Gibbs gives her respect from the start, lets her do the things she needs to do in the way she needs to do it. Can't y'all see that maybe Gibbs sees her as a daughter-figure? Duh! I've watched a lot of "detective shows" over the years, the one thing that keeps me coming back to NCIS, is that there is that chauvinistic thing that Gibbs has, deep down inside, the loss of his wife and child, that makes him VALUE the women he has on his team, and he makes them Better.

 

[Rule3]

Agreed. Not the same show, but similar topic I feel the same way towards The Big Bang Theory too. I enjoyed the show when it was only the guys and Penny. Now they added Bernadette and Amy. The show's plot is now broken up 50/50 between the guys' drama and the girls' drama.

How can you use the Big Bang and NCIS in the same paragraph let alone the same thread thread??

The Big Bang Theory , really ?? OMG

 

[Donn]

It sounds as if the program has 'jumped the shark'.

Happens to the best of them sooner or later. I heard there was going to be an NCIS, New Orleans. Don't know if that's still in the pipeline or not. Regarding the anti-gun message, Mark Harmon's the executive producer and a big time anti-gun guy. Ironic they put out these anti messages and then proceed to shoot up half of D.C. or Virginia. I can only recall one NCIS episode where no one pulled their Sig. Code of Silence starring the late Charles Durning.

 

[cjwalker]

I musta missed that "anti-gun" message thingie somewhere. I really doubt that Mark Harmon would produce a show where actors are trained to do as their Federal Agent characters would do, and "shoot to kill" and somehow try to wriggle an "Anti-Gun" message in there. Makes no sense.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

I never see them do the things that I remembered NIS agents doing: Investigating ship's store break-ins and busting sailors for possessing weed and/or kiddie porn.

Me two. The Air Force has the OSI, they mostly do the same investigating you just mentioned. Any Feds on board? I never knew that the NCIS / OSI had that much jurisdiction off base. For that, we got those folks in the starched shirts, the FBI.

 

[Donn]

I musta missed that "anti-gun" message thingie somewhere. I really doubt that Mark Harmon would produce a show where actors are trained to do as their Federal Agent characters would do, and "shoot to kill" and somehow try to wriggle an "Anti-Gun" message in there. Makes no sense.

Happens all the time, CJ. For example, IMHO, there's no bigger shoot-em-up show on primetime than Hawaii Five-0. Last week's re-run contained a diatribe from Scott Caan's character at a gun shop owner. In it, he ranted that "Guys like you, (meaning a legit gun shop owner), are the reason there's crime." and the usual, "If there were no guns, there'd be no crime." When it's pointed out that he has a gun, "Well, that's different. I need it." If anti messages are in this show, you can bet they're pretty much everywhere.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Happens all the time, CJ. For example, IMHO, there's no bigger shoot-em-up show on primetime than Hawaii Five-0. Last week's re-run contained a diatribe from Scott Caan's character at a gun shop owner. In it, he ranted that "Guys like you, (meaning a legit gun shop owner), are the reason there's crime." and the usual, "If there were no guns, there'd be no crime." When it's pointed out that he has a gun, "Well, that's different. I need it." If anti messages are in this show, you can bet they're pretty much everywhere.

Yes indeed, happens all the time. That was pretty much what Rosie O'Donnell said when it was revealed that her body guards were armed.

 

[cjwalker]

Happens all the time, CJ. For example, IMHO, there's no bigger shoot-em-up show on primetime than Hawaii Five-0. Last week's re-run contained a diatribe from Scott Caan's character at a gun shop owner. In it, he ranted that "Guys like you, (meaning a legit gun shop owner), are the reason there's crime." and the usual, "If there were no guns, there'd be no crime." When it's pointed out that he has a gun, "Well, that's different. I need it." If anti messages are in this show, you can bet they're pretty much everywhere.

*chuckles* I don't watch Hawaii Five-0. In 90 days I'll have my Conceal Carry Handgun License, and you will be Safe with me, I promise.

The sad thing is, that there are lame-os out there who really believe that "only criminals will carry guns" ****. AND they believe shows like NCIS, and Hawaii Five-0.

*heavy sigh*

Wanna hear the Real truth as I heard it from my Conceal Carry Handgun instructor, and verified by the Supreme Court?

Our "Boys and Girls in Blue" aren't out there for our personal protection. They protect "the community at large." Check out your local police cruiser, it no longer says "protect and serve." It says something else.

You and me, we, who choose to protect ourselves with weapons, classes, learning, awareness, security protocols, security systems around our homes and businesses, we are Our Own Personal Security.

Regards,
CJ

 

[cjwalker]

Dammit! I got off-topic again.

Rats.

 

[Philadelphia Patriot]

I musta missed that "anti-gun" message thingie somewhere. I really doubt that Mark Harmon would produce a show where actors are trained to do as their Federal Agent characters would do, and "shoot to kill" and somehow try to wriggle an "Anti-Gun" message in there. Makes no sense.

Mark Harmon and his wife are anti-gun.

He and his wife, Pam Dawber, are gun control advocates, despite wearing a holster in his job.

 

[Texas Star]

I usually catch the re-runs on USA, and every now and then I'll watch a new episode on CBS. I don't like the new girl. She's too awkward and not in a likeable Abbie awkward type of way. I wish they took Nicole Beharie (LT. Abbie Mills) from Sleepy Hollow and made her Cote de Pablo's replacement. I might get flamed for this, but I want a minority female. Cote de Pablo's "Israeli" culture on the show, and her humor, made her a likeable character. It's kinda boring seeing a bunch of white people stand around and solve crimes. ...and yes, I'm a white person saying this.

Well, I'm a white person reading it, and I think TV has quite enough minority roles lately. I was afraid that Ziva would be replaced by a non-white, just for PC reasons, which is why we see some minority actors.

I'm glad to see the new blonde, and I think she'll do fine.

Remember, the NCIS director is already a black man. Possibly, they might fit in an Asian or a Latina?

Do you like, "Hawaii Five-O" or, "The Mentalist"? I don't mind the mix on those shows, and liked Grace Park (Korean-Canadian) on, "Battlestar Gallactica", too. But I don't like the obnoxious black guy they added to,"The Mentalist" as an FBI agent, and I don't like the one on, "Intelligence". Agent Cho on, "The Mentalist" is Korean-American, I think. I don't know about Chin-Ho Kelly on 5-0.

Surely, they can find some black actor who isn't an "in your face" aggressive sort? But they seem to want that attitude.

That's all we can say here about race, I'm sure. But you touched a nerve. I realize that you were just expressing a personal preference. I'm just saying that tastes differ on such things, and I think a minority actress would be a sop to PC, which many viewers find irritating.

You know an American Indian actor might be nice, if he didn't have a racial chip on his shoulder, which is how they'd probably write him. Hollywood doesn't know how to handle racial issues except to highlight and exploit them.
That doesn't help people of different backgrounds to get along well.

Have you noticed that, "Hawaii Five-0" calls whites "haolis"? Racist terms about other races are taboo, but not that one, I guess...If I thought they'd care, I'd write to them about it.

 

[Texas Star]

Mark Harmon and his wife are anti-gun.

Thanks. I'd wondered about this.

"Criminal Minds" also makes anti-gun and anti-hunting statements.

 

[cjwalker]

Mark Harmon and his wife are anti-gun.

I spent some time reading Mark Harmon's bio. He's pro gun control, which I am, also. Read with me a bit.

My husband and I own several rifles, shotguns, handguns, etc. We secure all of these dangerous weapons in a heavy gun safe. If we did not do this, these dangerous weapons might fall into the hands of stupid teenagers, gang-bangers, or other types of thugs who might do harm with the weapons my husband and I have purchased. I own firearms. I am responsible for their storage and protection. This "sticking point" is something that some gun owners do NOT want to deal with. They think the weapons they purchase are just a "thing" and doesn't need to be secured. I disagree, and here is where I believe "control" needs to exist. All firearms owners need lockboxes, safes, secure methods to ensure the "things" they purchase cannot harm a human being. Call me crazy, this is what I think.

 

[Texas Star]

I spent some time reading Mark Harmon's bio. He's pro gun control, which I am, also. Read with me a bit.

My husband and I own several rifles, shotguns, handguns, etc. We secure all of these dangerous weapons in a heavy gun safe. If we did not do this, these dangerous weapons might fall into the hands of stupid teenagers, gang-bangers, or other types of thugs who might do harm with the weapons my husband and I have purchased. I own firearms. I am responsible for their storage and protection. This "sticking point" is something that some gun owners do NOT want to deal with. They think the weapons they purchase are just a "thing" and doesn't need to be secured. I disagree, and here is where I believe "control" needs to exist. All firearms owners need lockboxes, safes, secure methods to ensure the "things" they purchase cannot harm a human being. Call me crazy, this is what I think.

Securing weapons in your home is not what the gun control fanatics want. They don't want us to have them at all.

What part of this did you miss?

Also, I blame the thief who steals a gun more than I do an owner who can't afford a safe. I think laws should provide extra jail time for firearms theft.

Have you noticed that those most vocal about gun control are also those most vocal about going easy on criminals?

 

[Hodgin]

Omitting sports, NCIS is probably my favorite tv show. Getting older and more forgetful has some advantages. One is that I can dvr NCIS reruns on USA and they seem like new.

A remarkable thing about NCIS is that its gone 11 seasons (about 250 episodes) and is still worth watching. Consequently, the show's writers need to twick the show a bit. I suspect that's what's going on with the Ziva/Bishop change. They also changed the Kate character when Ziva came aboard.

I actually liked Kate's character a little better than Ziva's but still liked the show as much. The plot matters. I didn't think much of the Mossad thing with Ziva. I think they're stumbling around a bit with Bishop's character but maybe it just that it takes a while to get used to something new.

 

[Alpo]

I have to disagree regarding Ziva. We got through Kate being shot and Ziva coming on board to take her place. It will take a while to get over the loss of Cote but given time, the new girl will start to grow on us. I too like her change of pace style as a somewhat awkward "probie". I think as her character develops more and she becomes stronger, the story will improve. Hopefully, any anti gun rhetoric will disappear and we can move on to solving more deaths.

As far as NCIS LA, I like the chemistry there too. The maturing of Nell and the possible relationship with Eric adds a little suspense as well as the situation with Kensi and Deeks.

Speaking of Kensi, whats up with her eye?

I wondered about that, a couple of years ago, and looked her up.

She has a birthmark in her eye. I didn't know that was possible, but apparently that's the deal.

 

[CajunBass]

I lost what little use I had for NCIS back in an episode where they were supposed to be organizing a search party in rural Virginia to look for some lost sailor or something. Every "local" they found was a bucktoothed, long haired hillbilly poacher, right out of Lil' Abner. The only "good" person in town was the poor lonely park ranger trying to save the bears from the evil hunters.

Hogwash...

We won't even talk about the palm trees at "Oceana NAS", or being able to get from Quantico to Tidewater Va. in just a couple of minutes. And we can't forget Virginia's mythical "gun registration" computer they have on beck and call.

Don't get me started on Abby. Is that girl EVER going to grow up?

 

[RonJ]

They changed the Kate character when Ziva came aboard????

 

[Alpo]

There has been a lot of idiocy on the show.

The "evil gun" show

The pregnant Marine Christmas show, where Ziva, having two pistols (one with 13 rounds, one with 5, so not a lot of ammo to waste) jumps off a counter and, while in the air, is firing both guns simultaneously.

The skinny lawyer tries to bust Gibbs, so the whole team quits and takes the blame for everything, so Gibbs if off the hook. They send him to Iran, where he is ambushed, and he draws one gun from his hip and second from his ankle and is shooting bad guys with both simultaneously.

And my personal favorite. Ziva tracks the man that killed her father to the ship, and has him at gunpoint in the corridor, and he says, "I know you won't shoot an unarmed man in the back", turns his back and walks away. And this TRAINED MOSSAD ASSASSIN, with umpteen-dozen kills to her credit, watches him walk off and does not shoot.

I still enjoy it.

 

[radar1972]

On the current TV landscape (yech), NCIS is still one of the better ones, even with the anti-gun cues and so many seasons.

Nowadays, my wife and I are more looking forward to the next episode of Blacklist on NBC than the next episode of NCIS.