Any reason NOT to buy an M&P and just stick to my Glocks?

[Hawgleg44]

I've owned just about everything out there, and although I do still have a few 3rd Gen S&W's, Berettas, Rugers, Kimbers, etc, I've pretty much settled into shooting Glocks. I can shoot them fast and accurately, and it's showed when I've taken training classes and instructed classes on my own.

That said, I've never found that they are really the most comfortable pistol out there. As many will say, I don't find the grip angle to be anything that resembles natural to me. Then comes the M&P.....

I haven't fired one yet, but I've handled several of them and I'm impressed. One thing that I really like is the "beavertail", which certainly helps when you have huge hands like I do. I currently own 10 Glocks and have boxes of mags for each of them. But, that full-size 9mm M&P is really calling me lately. I'd usually go to a .40, but the department where I'll soon be returning to work at is now swapping over to M&P .40's.

So, other than the fact that I have over 40 mags for each model Glock I own (except for my G27), can anyone give me any reason not to make the swap over to an M&P? I won't part with my Glocks, but they may just find a comfortable spot in the back of the safe instead.

Help me make the decision!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hawgleg44]

I've owned just about everything out there, and although I do still have a few 3rd Gen S&W's, Berettas, Rugers, Kimbers, etc, I've pretty much settled into shooting Glocks. I can shoot them fast and accurately, and it's showed when I've taken training classes and instructed classes on my own.

That said, I've never found that they are really the most comfortable pistol out there. As many will say, I don't find the grip angle to be anything that resembles natural to me. Then comes the M&P.....

I haven't fired one yet, but I've handled several of them and I'm impressed. One thing that I really like is the "beavertail", which certainly helps when you have huge hands like I do. I currently own 10 Glocks and have boxes of mags for each of them. But, that full-size 9mm M&P is really calling me lately. I'd usually go to a .40, but the department where I'll soon be returning to work at is now swapping over to M&P .40's.

So, other than the fact that I have over 40 mags for each model Glock I own (except for my G27), can anyone give me any reason not to make the swap over to an M&P? I won't part with my Glocks, but they may just find a comfortable spot in the back of the safe instead.

Help me make the decision!!!!!!!!!

 

[RichardC]

S&W is way behind manufacturing magazines for M&P's.

 

[jaysouth]

Simply because you don't have one yet.

Go to Bud's and order one NOW!

 

[gmchenry]

Screw the M&P question, that's not what is important here.

It's really good to hear that you're going back to work. I take it your back is doing well?

OK, back to the M&P question. I looked at the M&Ps this week. I'm really trying to like them, but it's just not working for me. I fondled them, but there are so many ways that the Glock works--a multitude of trigger configurations, accessories out the wazoo, cheap mags, etc. The 1911 grip angle is perfect for me. I have learned to adapt to the Glock however. I've been thinking about the M&P .45. I've been kicking around the idea of a M&P 9mm long slide. When it came down to it, I bought another Glock yesterday, a 19. There's just so much going for the combat tupperware, I couldn't make the leap to the M&P. If the M&P were thinner, I might have been more encouraged to go that way.

After a $.25 trigger job, the Glock trigger is very workable and consistent. It took me a few hours to decide on which night sights to get because there are just soooo many options. A single manual of arms with reliable pistols in every configuration from full-size double stacks down to little sub-compacts and interchangeable caliber capabilities with drop-in barrels and a mag swap...damn.

 

[ericboo]

My dept also switched to the M&P. I shot great with it and it felt great in my hands. I contemplate buying one but read about rust, etc.

It would be nice to have one for personal on-duty use.

I also have to factor in that my Glock 26 works flawlessy and is already paid for. How many times am I going to be shooting my off-duty at someone? Hopefully never! Disposable income for a family of 5 working in LE is probably not enough to justify for me.

 

[Golddog]

My Glock 19 and 26 point perfectly for me, despite their blockish grip frames, and I love the factory triggers. The 19 and 26 fit important size niches - the M&P's are just a shade too large to compete with them. However, if I wanted to add another polymer gun, I'd get an M&P Compact or the new CZ full size polymer model, for their excellent ergonomics.

 

[18DAI]

The handling of the M&P was the only attraction, for me. I fired a bunch of them, in 40 and 9mm, and was not impressed.

The triggers were uniformly long and gritty, and not one was as accurate as my 910.

I'd stick with the Glocks, unless you really like the M&P's grip. Good luck! Regards 18DAI.

 

[Bullitholz]

Like most guns that are new out of the box the M&P's need a bit of massaging to get them where we want them to be. Mine had the gritty trigger when I picked it up used and after a rediculously small amount of work it's now got the crispest, shortest 5.5 lb. pull of any striker fired gun I have ever fired. I would agree that if you judge them based on what they feel like when brand new then you probably won't like them. But with just a little polishing they really wake up.

M&P 45:

 

[WR Moore]

This is a hard choice??????????????

The Glock has plastic sights, poor ergonomics, can't shoot lead bullets and a "Your Fault" customer service attitude.

The Smith has steel Novaks, excellent ergnomics, interchangable backstraps, and shoots anything you can get in a magazine and quite probably the best customer support in the free world.

Glock has all those doo-dads cause they need 'em

 

[enidpd804]

The trigger on my M P is better than my Glocks. It's only the second one I've shot so maybe I just got a good one.

 

[rollback88]

IMO, M&P, Glock & XD are in the same league in terms of quality and utility. Glock obviously gets the win for accessories and parts (kind of like the Ruger 10/22 of pistols).

That said, the M&P was a natural decision for me after handling the Glocks and XDs. The grips fit better, the M&P was less "blocky", and better out of the box (again, for me).

The funny thing is the difference between the M&P trigger when dry firing (s-u-c-k-s) and when actually firing (not bad at all). The 6# pull on the first round is tolerable, but the short reset and light, crisp follow up shots are top notch. And, as has been noted, gets better after a few hundred rounds.

For me, great ergonomics, 100% flawless performance, and they just look cool was plenty to make the choice.

I have a full size and a compact 9mm. The compact has about 1600 rounds through it and is my primary carry. The full size has about 200 rounds through and serves as home defender.

--jcd

 

[TN RAT]

I am a Glock owner and lover. I love the other plastic guns but have not bought one simply b/c I love my Glocks.

Perhaps that is all you need.

If not, go buy a new M&P and try it out. If you love it, then sell all those Glocks to someone on the 'net, and sell the magazines to me.

Let us know what you do.

 

[magnum12pm]

I have one of the early M&P 40, it has over 5000 rounds on it now. It has jamed once this year on reloads I am now using, so who knows gun or ammo. I have the lyman digital trigger pull gauge, the average of 5 trigger pulls is 5 pounds 4 oz. I had a little trouble with it when I first bought it, but totally reliable ever since. Its not my favorite of the collection but I don't hesitate to run with it anytime.

 

[d625]

I had the same question earlier this year and proceeded to make the change. I had shot approx 20,000 rounds through various Glocks....mostly a G24 and a G34 in various competition events and practice.

I purchased an M&P9 and then an M&P9L. Most of my experience has been with the long slide version, and for my use, I find absolutely no reason to go back to a Glock.

After all the polishing and fiddling with springs, the best Glock trigger I could manage was not as good as the Pro series long slide. Its stock trigger has a shorter reset and a crisper break than any of my Glocks. I don't know about high dollar replacement trigger assemblies.

For me, the grip angle of the Smith is better, and the adjustable back strap provides a correct trigger reach for me. The metal magazines drop more cleanly and seat more positively. The accuracy at any distance that I shoot is as good as my Glock 34 was.

Bottom line is that I have taken a long slide Pro series out of the box with no modifications and it works better for me than any Glock I have owned.

My only question is whether or not the Smiths will go 20,000 rounds with no malfunctions of any kind. That was my Glock experience.

This is my impression so far, others may feel quite differently.

 

[45caldan]

Anyone have a M&P 45 Compact yet? If so how do you like IT compared to a Glock.

 

[robotoid]

I shot a rental M&P and then bought a Glock 22 to go with my Glock 23. As much I like the S&W name and reputation, I have yet to find a pistol to beat the Glock. I can completely strip my Glock down all the way down to the smallest parts and reassemble or repair it if needed. Can't say the same about the M&P. I did not like the trigger on the M&P myself, but I intentionally put 8LB triggers in my Glocks.

 

[dennis40x]

This is the S&W third rendition of the polymer pistol. I hope it's successful. For me the M&P has come too late. I'm satisfied with the Glock pistols that I own and have no reason to change. Most likely if the M&P had been introduced ten years earlier I'd be an owner/user. That said I have a SW99-45ACP with the AS trigger system and find it to be satisfactory. The first issue magazines were problematic due to the springs employed. The other nettlesome aspect is the ambidextrous magazine release levers. One must be careful in their grip as not to actuate the levers during firing thus releasing the magazine.

 

[Hawgleg44]

Originally posted by gmchenry:
Screw the M&P question, that's not what is important here.

It's really good to hear that you're going back to work. I take it your back is doing well?

It's doing a lot better, but I just have to wait for the x-rays to clear the surgeon before I can get clearance to go back, but it's getting a lot closer.

I've decided to stick to my Glocks after speaking to an LE M&P Armorer I know. With the MA trigger (10lb), the trigger return spring (I think that's the spring he said) is larger and strong enough. But, with the standard trigger, the spring is very small. S&W recommends that, if an officer takes a "swim" with the gun (I did with a Glock one time, no problems with the Glock) that the spring is replaced, because it's a small spring that will rust and break, rendering the pistol useless.

I do like a beavertail, since I have huge hands. Looks like it's a Dremel tool, block of clay and Brownell's Accraglas for my Glocks. I already have Lone Wolf barrels for them all, so shooting my cast bullet reloads already isn't a problem.

 

[Denver Dick]

I love and collect S&W 3rd generation pistols and I have 17 of them. However, I also own 5 Glocks (G17, G19, G21, G22 and G31) and I'm not running out to sell any of them to fund my future purchases of other firearms.

I have owned and shot Glocks since 1992. I've never had a failure to function. I've learned to work the trigger and get excellent accuracy from all my Glocks. Glocks are one of the simplest pistols to completely disassemble and reassemble, and parts are readily available and easy to install.

I've handled and shot the M&P. It feels and handles pretty good. I found it to be accurate. The trigger is a little different, but for me being able to adjust and shoot different triggers is just another of the many challenges that makes pistol shooting fun. All that said, I find the Glock to be soulless compared to lovely 3rd generation pistols. But, as between the Glock and M&P, I think the Glock is a better system. JMHO