Any reason NOT to buy an M&P and just stick to my Glocks?

Originally posted by saintarctangent:
Originally posted by armybass:
I had a 9c that started to rust on the slide after two weeks. Check please, uh no thanks.

S and W say they're M and Ps are stainless slides. Strange they rust????

I don't know about this rusting problem, but all SS still contains some carbon, which will rust. I've had many LEO trade-in SS S&W revolvers with rust under the grips.
 
Originally posted by armybass:
I had a 9c that started to rust on the slide after two weeks. Check please, uh no thanks.

Two weeks huh? Must be some kind of acid in your sweat or something.
I've been carrying my M&P40c, for a few months now, in a way that it contacts my skin a lot. It still looks as good as new.


MP40c003.jpg
 
Glocks have been debugged.

Maintenance is easy and requires only a manual, some practice, one tool, and low cost spare parts. Sights require two more tools that are easy to use.

The genius of the Glock is that it was made for armorers. It also happens to shoot well.
 
Originally posted by ericboo:
Being a CO, there is unfortunately, no such thing as a backup gun.

I am very enamored by the feel of the M&P and how easy it is to shoot. It's the same feeling I get from my Sig.

I think I am convinced. Thanks for the reassurance. Just sucks that is has to have the mag disconnect safety, but such is life.

The mag disconnect isn't a horrible thing. On some guns it can affect the trigger feel but the M&P was purposely designed to avoid this problem from what I've read.
 
Originally posted by prochi2k:
Originally posted by armybass:
I had a 9c that started to rust on the slide after two weeks. Check please, uh no thanks.

Two weeks huh? Must be some kind of acid in your sweat or something.
I've been carrying my M&P40c, for a few months now, in a way that it contacts my skin a lot. It still looks as good as new.


MP40c003.jpg

Nope, if you do a little looking you will find that they had a bad batch of 9c's that did not get the proper treatment when they were finishing them (I don't know the correct term) and in turn they all rusted very quickly. I sweat a lot, but it has not bothered any of my Glocks, Sigs, XD's nor my Kimber. To tell the truth, my M&P 45 is completely rust free and perfect even when I carry it. But that does not make me any happier about getting one that rusted. I am not saying not to buy one, I still own one but just saying to beware if it is a used 9c. Just my .02.
 
Originally posted by MattB:
Originally posted by ericboo:
Being a CO, there is unfortunately, no such thing as a backup gun.

I am very enamored by the feel of the M&P and how easy it is to shoot. It's the same feeling I get from my Sig.

I think I am convinced. Thanks for the reassurance. Just sucks that is has to have the mag disconnect safety, but such is life.

The mag disconnect isn't a horrible thing. On some guns it can affect the trigger feel but the M&P was purposely designed to avoid this problem from what I've read.

Honestly, I prefer having a mag disconnect on a duty weapon, or a weapon I may use as a backup. The department I worked for before getting injured is small, and you usually work alone. Backup depends on either the State Police (2-3 Troopers on duty for a HUGE area) or a neighboring town, with the same number of officers on duty.

I received a call one night of a fight involving "at least 10 people" in the parking lot of one of the several apartment complexes housing mostly college students. This one was at a complex known for two rival groups in the narcotics business. The neighboring town's officer was already on his way to a domestic call (alone, due to lack of backup) and the Troopers were 40 minutes away at a car fire. In this situation, I like the idea of being able to drop the mag if it looks like I'm going to be overpowed by "at least 10 people" and disabling my weapon.

I blew in there with lights and sirens blaring, and anyone who could still stand ran away. I could deal with the ones left on the ground, none of whom saw who did it to them. Imagine that!
 
I know I don't want to be wrestling with an inmate in the ER without the mag safety. Part of why I prefer it.
 
I tried and tried to buy a Glock 26. It just didn't feel good in my hand. I was at a gunshop at my last attempt and the clerk had me try a Walther and a Kel-Tec. Felt OK, but when he handed my the M&P 9c and I held it my decision was made. I can shoot very well with it. Two weeks later I got the full size .45. I tried to join the Glock club!
 
At which point in the struggle with an adversary does one make the decision to release the magazine from one's sidearm?
 
Originally posted by RichardC:
At which point in the struggle with an adversary does one make the decision to release the magazine from one's sidearm?

If you unholstered your duty weapon, then got into a struggle which is not going you way, and you are afraid you are going to lose your weapon, dump the mag (if you have a magazine safety), let them have your now useless pistol, and draw the backup you should be carrying.
 
I do not like magazine disconnects, I have no responsibility to wrestle with anybody, if I decide to drop my magazine it is going to be because the gun has been shot to slide lock and it's time for a reload.
 
If you unholstered your duty weapon, then got into a struggle which is not going you way, and you are afraid you are going to lose your weapon, dump the mag (if you have a magazine safety), let them have your now useless pistol, and draw the backup you should be carrying.

No backup gun, so a non-firing weapon in an inmate's hands makes me a little more sense. Hopefully I would still have my baton and he would have a cracked skull.
 
If you still have enough control of your weapon to operate the magazine release button, wouldn't you have enough control to operate the trigger?
 
Originally posted by RichardC:
If you still have enough control of your weapon to operate the magazine release button, wouldn't you have enough control to operate the trigger?

Not of the person you are struggling with has a hold on your muzzle, has pushed your slide out of battery, etc.
 
Don't buy the M&P because it does nothing your Glock wont although the M&P is a better looking pistol in my opinion. That why I carry a SW99 over a Glock or M&P. It works like they do but it looks classier doing it.
 
Originally posted by powerkicker:
Don't buy the M&P because it does nothing your Glock wont although the M&P is a better looking pistol in my opinion. That why I carry a SW99 over a Glock or M&P. It works like they do but it looks classier doing it.

My M&P fits my hand better than any Glock I've tried. I consider fit and comfort a whole lot more important than looks.
 
Very pleased with my M&P 357. Picked up a factory barrel in .40 S&W from Midway USA as well. I might add a M&P 357c soon.
 
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