Any retired Suffolk County PD guys on here?

[stantheman86]

I just had a quick question for any current or retired Suffolk County police who might read this.....

I just bought a SCPD trade in Ruger Service Six .38 4" revolver.

I just wanted to know if the SCPD allowed any type of aftermarket grips on the revolvers or if they had to use certain types such as Pachmayr, etc.

Thanks for any help

 

[Rusty Shacklford]

Hello, I am not a current or retired Police officer but will give you the small bit of info that I have. First, you mentioned Suffolk County but not the state specifically. My former homeland, NY, and my current, Va, both have a Suffolk county as may other states.

But since you referred to it as a police dept. and not the Sherriff's then it may be NY. Back in the early 80's a neighbor was an "auxiliary" police officer in Suffolk Co. NY. I am fairly certain that they had to abide by every rule and regulation the other officers did. They would have to buy their own weapons, and varied in type-S&W 28, S&W 13, k and n frames with the N being less common. The neighbor had the mdl 13 with Pachmayr presentation style grips, and was the first pistol that I ever fired. Technically I think that was a violation of the law. They were not issued weapons at that time. as an aside they used the .38 spl +p 125 grain hollowpoints and I remember him saying how powerful they were. I guess things have changed a bit. So- not for certain- I believe they could use different types of grips but think the pachmayr types were popular then. Hope this helps.

 

[chief38]

I am also not a SCPD employee, but I have lived here in Suffolk for 35 years. The Officers were allowed to use after market grips such as Pachmeyer's (as I have witnessed them first hand) and as a duty weapon the Ruger's were not all that popular; actually fairly rare. The Smith M15 was the king of the hill back in the day when SCPD carried revolvers. Rugers came into the game very late and shortly after their acceptance the PD went over to Semi Auto's so the Ruger never had any longevity with SCPD.

 

[stantheman86]

Great info , Thank You

Yes I mean Suffolk County NY.

I didn't know there was a choice of sidearms for the SCPD cops, my Service Six is stamped SCPD, I assume it was an "issued" gun.

It looks hardly used so it may have been a "spare" or reserve gun?
It might have been the officers could buy their own or carry an issued Ruger.

It still has new looking stock factory wood panels.

 

[kaaskop49]

Hey, stan, that's a really beautiful gun. I would hang onto it, it's very desirable and hard to come by. Apparently, those as has 'em, keeps 'em. Not hard to see why.

Not aware that NY-area PDs stamped what were privately-owned service guns. Other jurisdictions would stamp issued weapons. Might SC refer to Santa Clara or another jurisdiction?

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[MTS Cop]

Not a direct answer but.....NYPD allowed the use of aftermarket grips on revolvers. Mostly Pachmyer I believe. Most surrounding departments usually followed the big guy's lead so it is very possible Suffolk did as well.

 

[stantheman86]

Thank you
I'm a S &W fan but also a Ruger nut.

I only know it's a Suffolk County PD gun because someone on another forum has an identical gun with the same exact stamp.

From what I read many NYPD officers left the NYPD and went to Suffolk County for better pay and benefits. I would gather it's still the same way.

Here's one that's not so pretty....it's a PA DOC trade in Service Six .38.

I am a PA Corrections Officer and we use S&W 65's now. I know first hand how roughly these guns get treated , so I'm not surprised the Six looks like it took a load of buckshot. It still shoots like a champ though.

 

[Texas Star]

Thank you
I'm a S &W fan but also a Ruger nut.

I only know it's a Suffolk County PD gun because someone on another forum has an identical gun with the same exact stamp.

From what I read many NYPD officers left the NYPD and went to Suffolk County for better pay and benefits. I would gather it's still the same way.

Here's one that's not so pretty....it's a PA DOC trade in Service Six .38.

I am a PA Corrections Officer and we use S&W 65's now. I know first hand how roughly these guns get treated , so I'm not surprised the Six looks like it took a load of buckshot. It still shoots like a champ though.

I saw your posts on Ruger.net, I think. I remember that gun.
I've seen a number of posts about Rugers in NYPD and Suffolk County use and it seems that they were authorized and some officers bought them. But most preferred S&W Model 64's at that time. I think Model 10's were also still in use. I've read that only Pachmayr Grippers were authorized as replacement grips. Can't say if that's true, but it was posted, I think by a former cop there.

Where exactly is Suffolk County? Does it encompass Long Island? If so, the S&W M-15 used by the police chief in, Jaws was exactly what he'd probably have had in real life. However, he ran a separate city department.

Why are PA corrections officers so hard on their guns? I realize that many cops just don't care about guns, as long as they function.

 

[hudsonvalley]

What amazes me is that the county would regulate what grips they would allow you to put on your gun...and that no one questions how ridiculous a piece of legislation that is....I grew up in Suffolk County...can't believe how regulated it's become...

 

[ladder13]

Stan, try PMing Jimmy D aka member demkofour, he's OTJ in Suffolk County.
BTW, they also issued M 64's.

 

[Rusty Shacklford]

"Where exactly is Suffolk County? Does it encompass Long Island? If so, the S&W M-15 used by the police chief in, Jaws was exactly what he'd probably have had in real life. However, he ran a separate city department."

Since someone asked-Suffolk county NY is on Long Island, that crocodile shaped 100 mile island jutting out of NYC. The town I grew up in was one of the most over-policed areas one could imagine. State police, Sheriff's, Suffolk county PD, Town Police, and Code enforcement in one town. And yes they do love to regulate, legislate. Out in the Hamptons it was called the "land of No'. There were large Signs with a large NO-and a list of all the things that weren't allowed.
There are smaller towns that have their own PD, and Jaws was modeled after one of those.