An interesting phone call from a LEO

[biku324]

In NM since 2019, if you transfer a firearm to a non-relative, you have to have a background check meeting the 18 U.S.C. Section 923(a) requirements (30-7-7.1) - you just do the background check, you don't do a 4473.

Prior to that, there were no rules. Of course, homicides have gone UP since 2019. Sigh. https://justicereinvestmentinitiati...Criminal-Justice-Data-Snapshot_accessible.pdf

 

[spad124]

To be clear, I provided the officer I spoke to the above information concerning the Ruger. He stated it was not reported stolen and more or less suggested his department generally attempted to return recovered items if possible. Yes I sold it, as did my buyer. I would prefer to not see it destroyed. I am not looking to get something for nothing.

Since you know your LEO buyer resold or traded the Ruger to another LEO, I'd give that info to the investigating officer. And I'd contact your buyer so he/she could contact the second buyer. Unless the second buyer is the person who the police took the Ruger from, or subsequently resold the Ruger again, that person may want it back. Seems odd to me a LEO wouldn't report a stolen firearm.

In the state I live in, Illinois, it's a crime to not report a lost or stolen firearm. (So a crime victim commits a crime if they don't report a crime). I always keep proof if I sell a firearm so I'm not charged with something because I'm the last name in the official 4473 record. Like other states Illinois requires a private seller to conduct an online background check through the state police website prior to the sale. Supposedly the state police do not keep the search record, although the make, model, and SN is required. In addition, for private sales for the last two years, a buyer in a private non-FFL firearm sale also has to physically go to a FFL after the private purchase and record the private purchase in the FFL's records. Which means the state has created a defacto registry through private businesses.

 

[spad124]

Maybe I'm missing something here but as I see it . . . If poster was me, and the gun was sold in Louisiana by me after looking at the buyer's DL, I could not care less if the gun was used to assassinate the president. T'aint my gun any more and under Louisiana Law I ain't liable for squat. There is no requirement under federal law to document a private sale and under Louisiana law sale of a moveable is perfected upon delivery of said immoveable. . . .

LA seems pretty reasonable for private firearm sales. Other states, usually the "progressive" ones, have different and much more restrictive laws for firearm sales between individuals. You have to know the process in your state.

 

[steelslaver]

Here selling a gun is just like selling a hammer and between private there is just as much paperwork, While some states require an FFL very few have state registration, The state of Montana couldn't care less which, what or how many its people have

 

[BE Mike]

Here selling a gun is just like selling a hammer and between private there is just as much paperwork, While some states require an FFL very few have state registration, The state of Montana couldn't care less which, what or how many its people have

That could change when the next swarm of liberals from southern California come flying!

 

[LostintheOzone]

That could change when the next swarm of liberals from southern California come flying!

I think MT is safe for awhile. The newest destination for CA migrants is the southeast according to U-Haul. Y'all have fun.

 

[BE Mike]

I think MT is safe for awhile. The newest destination for CA migrants is the southeast according to U-Haul. Y'all have fun.

Only if they are farm workers.