Anybody shoot "Companion Guns"?

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Looking at an old K22 box last weekend got me to wondering, does anybody shoot companion guns? You know, on the lid of the K22 box it says something like "Companion gun to the K32 and K38". The idea being, I suppose, that since all three calibers were built on the same K Frame, the K22 could be used as a training or practice gun for the two larger calibers.

Here is a picture of my 4" 617 and 686 that I take to the range together, does anybody else do this with different caliber guns?
 

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I've got the same combination a 686..

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ination. A 4" 617 and a 4" 686

and a 617

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I have used my M18 Combat Masterpiece as a companion/low cost training gun for the .38 version. I have also used it to introduce new shooters to the basics. It's a great way to learn, plus it's fun.
 
Yes, I do series, too: 351PD, 360PD, 329PD, and 357PD.

Also, 617, 629, 657 in six inch versions. 3" Model 60 .357, and 4" 686+.

I also enjoy companion rifles to go with the handgun calibers in: .22LR, .22WMR, .32H&R, .357, .41, .44, and .500.
 
Model 63-ND 4-inch J-frame is always at the range with me. Usually start w/50-100 rounds, then shoot my other .38/357 J-frames. However I always shoot it first, regardless of the other revolvers I have with me. It is a cheap-shooting companion for practice!
 
Looks like a popular combination:
4" 686 and 4"617. I need to take a photo of the two of them together.
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.22 and .38 pairs

I have a pair of pairs: .22s and .38s in 8 3/8 inch Masterpieces and in 4 inch Combat Masterpieces (well, actually the model-numbered versions but I always forget which number is which). I found all four (over a number of years) with target triggers and target hammers, which always struck me as a little odd on the four inch versions. I don't have a picture handy of the long versions but here's the shorties:
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Looking at an old K22 box last weekend got me to wondering, does anybody shoot companion guns? You know, on the lid of the K22 box it says something like "Companion gun to the K32 and K38". The idea being, I suppose, that since all three calibers were built on the same K Frame, the K22 could be used as a training or practice gun for the two larger calibers.

Here is a picture of my 4" 617 and 686 that I take to the range together, does anybody else do this with different caliber guns?

The concept of companion guns, or understudies, as noted firearms author T.J. Mullin coined the term in his excellent book "Training the Gunfighter," is an excellent way to get good practice.

Examples are:

1. Model 10, 13, 15, 19 or the stainless equivalents, being paired with the Model 18

2. Model 581 or 586, or stainless equivalents, being paired with the 617

3. Model 36, 40 or 49, or stainless equivalents, being paired with Model 34, 63, 317, 43C or similar

4. 1911 being used with a 22 conversion, and this also applies to the Beretta 92 Series, Glock, CZ75, SIG Sauer 220, 226, 228 and 229 series, and others.

5. The US Military used many thousands of the Ruger Government Model version of the 22 Auto as trainers, and for other purposes. The 22/45 Model might even be better as its grip is designed to be like the 1911. Of course, the grandfather of them all is the S&W Model 41, which is designed to duplicate the grip feel and weight of the 1911.

6. Cowboy action shooters need not feel left out as Ruger's 22 Single Six is a great understudy for the Vaquero and the Model P Colt Single Action Army.

Unfortunately, many agencies bought into the idea of training with nothing by duty ammunition. This policy, in my opinion, is poorly thought out. Yeah, I know all about liability issues since I am an attorney myself, but a shooter can get much more practice with 22s and become a better shot, thereby lessening the agency's liability. Of course, full power ammo can and should be used for familiarization and qualification.

This concept was at the heart of Bill Jordan's sales pitch to Carl Hellstrom when Jordan suggested that the ideal peace officer's revolver would be a Model 15, chambered in .357 Magnum, with shrouded ejector rod, in which 38s would be used for practice and magnums for qualification and carry. Times have changed, yes, but the concept is still sound.

With the economy the way it is and with ammunition prices through the roof, S&W is missing a huge market by not offering a dedicated 22 in both the compact and full size versions of the M&P pistol. Such units are available for the Browning High Power, Beretta 92, the Colt 1911, the CZ75, the Glocks, the SIG Sauer Classic line, and perhaps others.

Thus, the 22 understudy has a place in today's training environment, and any shooter is wise to make much use of the 22s available for training.
 
For me:

340PD and 317 (soon to be 43C)
Glock 19 and Advantage Arms .22 conversion
AR15 and CMMG .22 conversion

Also:
Beretta 92FS and Beretta .22 conversion
Browning Hi Power and Ciener .22 conversion and .22 Buckmark
Ruger Mini-14 and 10-22
 
Sure. I consider my 4" 617 to be a close companion to my 4" 66 and to my 4" 27. It's a little heavier than my 66, a little lighter than the 27. But close enough, IMO, to replicate the feel of both guns.
 
I have a Glock 17 to go with my 22 duty weapon for lower cost ammo (when .40s&w was $6.15/50 and 9mm was $4.39/50).
 
heres a couple 617 & 686
 

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Model 17 & Model 14. Alias K-22 & K-38
 
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Its the exact reason I got myself a model 18. I am in the process of finding a model 19 to go with it. My plan is to compliment my models 10 and 581 with a model 13, and then get a model 15, 19, and 586 so I can have all of the fixed and adjustable sighted K/L frames in .38 and .357 represented in my collection. I have a fetish for blued smith wheel guns and I am currently trying to fund this adventure. It is fun to collect em, but man is it hard on bill paying lol.
 
The S&W Model K22 and K38 are more then just called companion guns as they are built to be exactly the same weight in the same barrel length and provide the same balance. This was done to allow shooters to practice with the K22 with cheap ammo and shoot the K38 in competition.
 
I've got a 617, 686 and 696. Love shooting each one. From cheap and fun through personal protection and on to big bore. All are 3" except the 4" 617.
 
shooting companion guns

My companions for woods walking and the range: my model 60-4 in 38Spl 3" and my model 34 in 22RF 4" both RB. Great friends.
 
I've got a 686+ 6" and a 617 6" and I'll admit they are my two favorites (followed closely by my M&P40 and 40c :D )
 
Sure, why not?

My 3-gun Bullseye set:

S&W 617-4 (October, 2000)
S&W 686-5 (January, 2001)
S&W 625-6 (November, 2000)

All with MIM semi-target hammer, MIM thumb-piece, forged .312" combat trigger, all with Ahrends round-to-square "Tactical" finger-groove grips, all with 1" UltraDot red-dot sights:

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For some reason, these companions came to mind when I read your post:
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I call them "Boris and Natasha". Boris is OK, but Natasha is .....how can I say this without incurring some gorilla-wrath here....well, she's-a-not so hot. A high cost ammo-eating tramp that God only knows where it's been or where it will wind up (..the projectile part of the ammo that is). Consequently, these "companions" are seldom exercised.

But I do have some other regular range companion guns:
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(some 41's)
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(a couple of old 22LR geezers)
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(some M65's)
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(a couple of M28's)
I'll typically throw in a K22 (usually a pre-17) to start-off with to sort of get right with myself and then I'll stick with only one other caliber. It works for me, anyways. -S2
 

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