Anyone know Evaluators Limited Quantico ?

It certainly looks like it but my brother would be able to verify it absolutely. I watched my father use it too. He and another man had an article in the American Rifleman magazine, was it, and it showed both of them squaring off in a drawing match. Even though my dad was way heavier than his opponent, he easily outdrew him.
 
When I looked at her signature, I was mentally & emotionally back in Guam in 1945, being home schooled. Dad was the commanding officer of the Naval & MC detachment, trying to find a cure for dengue fever, malaria & all of the other tropical diseases that the men (and dad) had gotten in Samoa & in other areas of the world before & after the war. The Japanese prisoners were there in a compound & they broke out because they wanted to be killed in honor by battle. They attacked our (the CO's) quonset hut & everyone who survived was loaded on a troop ship, whereupon, to a man, they jumped overboard. That was so scary for me, I blocked it out. Mom was on top of a chair, pistol blazing, aiming at the attackers through the cracks in the top of the walls & the roof of the hut. Dad had 2, blazing from the hip, protecting his family as people broke down the front door. My brother, who remembered it, was under a bed.

All this from looking at a signature. She taught me how to write in Guam. One of the Japanese prisoners, Nagaji Sakata, taught me how to paint & draw. His son in Japan now has his paintings. I gave them to the Japanese Embassy in D.C., asked them to find his family, & they did. I'm so grateful that mom & dad both knew how to protect us.
 
Sadly, I have been informed by Dr. Flora Van Orden that her brother, LtCol George Mason Van Orden, USMC Ret., died on March 30, 2013 as a result of injuries sustained in a car crash with a fleeing felon. He was 73.
My sincere condolences to the family and friends.
Rest in Peace, Sir.


Lt. Col. (ret) George Van Orden USMC

Obituary For: Lt. Col. George Van Orden, USMC (Ret) | Bennett Funeral Homes

Richmond man faces murder charge in crash that killed retired Marine - Richmond Times Dispatch: City Of Richmond
 
This email from Flora Van Orden gave me the news:
As you all may know, my brother George (Col. George Mason Van Orden) was killed by a 'high' driver in a stolen car being chased by the police in Midlothian, VA the day before Easter.
I would like to invite you to come to Arlington National Cemetery at 1 p.m. on June 19 to share our grieving and our celebration of his life, his accomplishments with a S&W, his family, his dedication to his country, and his legacy of bravery calling for a congressional investigation in order to get the M-16 into a shape where it would not jam in combat conditions. It made him really depressed when he saw his dead men in Vietnam have their boots and watches stolen, but no enemy wanted our M-16 because they knew their Russian weapon was superior. Now, the M-16 is safe, but he sacrificed shooting in the Olympics and being the captain of the MC rifle and pistol team in order to stand up and be counted as the requestor of the investigation. We are all proud of him. It takes cohones to give up the glory for the lives of your men, but he gave the act no second thought because he's part of a 125 year tradition of putting safety first, starting with George Mason from Virginia, for whom he was named, who penned the Va. Articles of Declaration, which turned into the Bill of Rights. He wrote, "All men should have life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and safety" and George Washington took off the word "safety" and prevented Mason from passing any more bills because Mason and other men who believed in safety boycotted the signing of the Constitution. Hope to see you there


Whereupon, I asked her:
"Would it be permissible for me to post the memorial service and M-16 data on the forum?"


Her reply:
Thank you so much for doing so. Anyone who wishes to come will be welcomed. I hope they identify themselves to me and to my brother's wife, Mimi
 
Invitation to Funeral in Arlington: Col. Van Orden:

I would like to invite the Vietnam and Korean veterans with (and without!) their motorcycles and make this a real rally of pride and independence to Col. George Mason Van Orden's funeral in Arlington on Wednesday, June 19, at 1 p.m.. My brother was a Vietnam veteran, and I helped in the 70's also, as an Army National Guard member in the Public Information Office. We are going to try to get the band to play the General Van Orden march written by Leo Denena, Jr. because I really think, with all of the bad press recently about weapons and the military, that we need to have something local to focus on that will relax the civilians and build a sense of unity of purpose and I think in a small way this might be one of those somethings. He gave up his opportunity to shoot in the Olympics and his captaincy of the M.C. Rifle Team to call for a congressional investigation to fix the M-16 so it wouldn't jam in combat conditions. He's a hero and we need to show that we believe in standing up for safety by a show of numbers. What do you think?
 
If you knew my parents, would you share your memories with me, please?
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I still have the S&W 2 inch .38 Chiefs Special I bought from Mrs. Van Orden in 1970, along with the box and all the original papers and sales slip. I also bought a Tyler T grip adaptor and an S&W embossed holster with it. Some time later I went back to her and got a set of oversize S&W target grips for it, which fit my hands much better. It has been my trusted companion on many road trips, and when not in the car or my overnight bag, it resides in the gun safe.
I also used to buy some reloading supplies from your Mom, and it was always a hoot to hang around and listen to her stories of the old days. She was a great lady!
 
This is /was an unbelievably interesting thread. I am sorry to hear of the untimely death of Col Van Orden. In my short time as a S&W collector I already have a pre model 42 Centennial Airweight that was shipped in Sept 1954 to Evaluators in Va.
 
Evaluators LTD

Just now found this thread, and just today, my good friend Jim sent me some very interesting sheets that were put out by Evaluators, LTD.
They apparently did these spec sheets on several different models.
Tom
 

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Here's my K38/Evaluators holster purchased from Flora in 1951. Col. Stratton and my father were Marine Company Commanders in the Pacific, in fact my father and General Van Orden made the Bougainville landing together on 1 November 1943. I have memories I would be happy to share with Flora's daughter. Semper Fi, Captain Don Weiler USMCR O104971
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I remember being w/my father-in-law in the early '70's when he purchased a 3" Chief Spl. from Evaluators. I'd go by from time to time but never had enough money to buy anything back then (wife, two small kids on a cops salary). Wish I knew what happened to that Chief Spl.
 
I have a Pre 27 3.5 that shipped to Evaluators...and a Evaluators Heiser Holster that was bought around the same time frame..

sold By Evaluators LTD and Possibly was sold with this Gun...pretty cool to match them up..Its Marked Evaluators LTD on the Back and Mag 3 1/2..

Pre 27 3.5 Shipped in Feb 1950 to Evaluators LTD..





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