for the record, I'm a big Primary Arms fan. Those guys are awesome - I mean I have literally had 30 min phone conversations and they'll give you info on their stuff but then explanations, they've given me advice and gunsmithing info/tips on assembly and modifying my ARs, optics pro vs cons etc. etc. Just genuniely nice guys. Have even said like, hey you can get such-and-such on sale next week or , We see that what you want is cheaper on a competitors website, we can match it or throw in something or send you over there to save the money etc.
And their optics- Basically IMHO if you're NOT going to buy 'premium' aka usable duty optics this is what you should buy. They're the only value optics and clones of other stuff that are NOT JUNK and not designed for airsoft- they'll hold up to duty use, 5.56 shooting and 12 gauge shooting, etc.
Seriously - I wasted money on NcStar and said to others how silly they were. WHY Spend so much on 15-22 money, why put a different more expensive optic on an AK-47?? THIS ONE has a red dot and a laser and lights up just like THAT one!
Both broke. Just like that, 6 monthss into their use, different issues, both broke. Other people have said same thing about a HOST of other clones. Primary Arms are QUALITY Value-branded optics and they stand by what they sell . That sasy a TON- PLUS, they have some of the best prices on the interwebz world for stuff like Aimpoint red dots and EOTech holosights. ... Their packages are amazing, and their slings/flashlights/Magpul store/etc. are just out of this world.
So I understand I am not going to convince everyone of the 'value' of expensive optics, i understand that and Ii'm cool wit that. I would say, PA is the way to go.