Apex Action Enhancement Triggers

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I got an aluminum one installed on my shield 9 recently. It looks nice and eliminated much of the pre/over travel that the stock trigger had. It is definitely going to take a little range time to get used to the new shape of the trigger though. I'm so accustomed to my mp9c's stock trigger that this new apex one on the shield feels a bit foreign.
 
macski222 said:
I got an aluminum one installed on my shield 9 recently. It looks nice and eliminated much of the pre/over travel that the stock trigger had. It is definitely going to take a little range time to get used to the new shape of the trigger though. I'm so accustomed to my mp9c's stock trigger that this new apex one on the shield feels a bit foreign.
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Kinda like a glock?
 
Yes it resembles the glock trigger, and incorporates the same trigger safety
 
I had a gunsmith install it along with new sights. If your'e a bit mechanically inclined and have access to the correct tools and a vice, you could do it. There are some pretty good youtube instructionals
 
I installed the Apex Tactical Upgrade kit in my 9mm Shield (with the aluminum trigger) and the difference is night and day. This kit included the new trigger, trigger spring, sear plunger and spring, and spring/plunger in the slide. The trigger breaks nice and crisp right at about 4 pounds, and all the sloppy travel that was there before is gone. Definitely a good upgrade.

I also installed the Apex sear plunger/spring and trigger spring in my M&P 9c. An easy upgrade well worth the money.

One word of caution on the aluminum trigger - the spring pin comes preinstalled in one side of the trigger and is a bear to get into place. Without an armorers block I used a roll of duct tape on it's side to help support the trigger as I drove the pin into place. Also, use a bit of oil to keep the aluminum from galling - it's a tight fit.

Oh yea - S&W saw fit to use red locktite on the rear sight screw, so I ended up having to take the slide to a smith to get the darn screw out. I twisted about a dozen 1/16" wrenches trying everything imaginable to break that little screw loose. :mad:
 
Take note, what you've linked to in the OP are two different things. One is just a trigger and the other is a trigger and some internal parts. The trigger is just a different trigger. The Action Enhancement Kit is an upgrade to the sear as well.

Then there's the Forward Set Sear kit which is different yet.

The question is, what do you want to achieve with this upgrade?
 
Rastoff said:
Take note, what you've linked to in the OP are two different things. One is just a trigger and the other is a trigger and some internal parts. The trigger is just a different trigger. The Action Enhancement Kit is an upgrade to the sear as well.

Then there's the Forward Set Sear kit which is different yet.

The question is, what do you want to achieve with this upgrade?
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Yes, I realize one is just the trigger and the other is a kit. I just thought that trigger might be an improvement to longevity being one piece vs two. Also thought it might be more similar to my glocks in feel.
 
The M&P trigger is its one weak point. The stock trigger is just not that good. So, an improvement is not a bad idea.

The original trigger is not a weak point. It will last as long as any part on the gun. Yes, the Apex trigger will feel more like your Glock trigger, but the press won't feel like the Glock unless you do the full upgrade.

I recommend the Forward Set Sear kit. It addresses all the issues.
 
Rastoff said:
The M&P trigger is its one weak point. The stock trigger is just not that good. So, an improvement is not a bad idea.

The original trigger is not a weak point. It will last as long as any part on the gun. Yes, the Apex trigger will feel more like your Glock trigger, but the press won't feel like the Glock unless you do the full upgrade.

I recommend the Forward Set Sear kit. It addresses all the issues.
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Another thing I wish the M&P had was a "dead" trigger when the striker is not engaged. What I mean is on a glock, I know if it is empty, or uncocked if the trigger is back. That's a nice feature. Anything to make an m&p do that?
 
I don't know what you mean by a dead trigger. Once the mag is empty the slide is locked back.
I recommend you get the full Apex kit with the polymer trigger, RAM and ejector.
The Apex kit completely eliminates creep so you can fire and reset within a few millimeters and the flat face of the trigger is far superior to stock.
I haven't tried the new Apex trigger but the original is more than satisfactory.
 
ATF said:
I don't know what you mean by a dead trigger. Once the mag is empty the slide is locked back.
I recommend you get the full Apex kit with the polymer trigger, RAM and ejector.
The Apex kit completely eliminates creep so you can fire and reset within a few millimeters and the flat face of the trigger is far superior to stock.
I haven't tried the new Apex trigger but the original is more than satisfactory.
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On a Glock, the trigger remains back, as opposed to returning to "ready" position if there is no round and the trigger is pulled.
 
The internals of a Glock and M&P are quite different. The Glock has a trigger spring, but not a trigger return spring like the M&P. The slide action returns the Glock trigger to firing position. As stated earlier, the Glock trigger will stay back if pulled when the gun is empty. The M&P, because of the trigger return spring, will not. It will return to what looks like a ready to fire position.
 
AZ_M&P said:
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Oh yea - S&W saw fit to use red locktite on the rear sight screw, so I ended up having to take the slide to a smith to get the darn screw out. I twisted about a dozen 1/16" wrenches trying everything imaginable to break that little screw loose. :mad:
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I put the tip of a soldering gun on the set screw for a bit. That loosened up the loctite enough to back it right out, but of course, being of brilliant mind, I removed the set screw and dropped it into the palm of my hand. It took several minutes to find where it landed after I threw it.
 
randyr5 said:
The internals of a Glock and M&P are quite different. The Glock has a trigger spring, but not a trigger return spring like the M&P. The slide action returns the Glock trigger to firing position. As stated earlier, the Glock trigger will stay back if pulled when the gun is empty. The M&P, because of the trigger return spring, will not. It will return to what looks like a ready to fire position.
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Darn... I love that feature in Glocks.
 
ATF said:
Ok I understand what you mean. As far as I know the M&P will not do this. Sigs do not do this either or most other pistols.
Haven't fired a Glock for years.
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Yeah, other guns are better shooters, but I have so flippin' much trigger time on Glocks, it's hard to get the feel for anything else. I can shoot anything well, but glocks feel like home.
 
Rastoff said:
Why? What benefit is there in such a feature?

If there's no round in the chamber, both guns will make a click instead of a bang. If the gun does not cycle, neither gun will reset the sear. If the sear is not set, sure, the M&P trigger will still go forward, but so what?
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I can look at a glock without even touching it, and get a pretty good idea of the condition of the gun.
 
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