Apex trigger issues

[dipperdave]

USMC

We always are...never forget, the USMC is a department of the Navy!

Yes, the Marine Corps is a department of the Navy.

It's the MEN's Department.

As far as this thread goes, I really like the 2.0 hinged trigger, but I would never criticize someone who replaces it. I also like the hinged triggers on my FNS full sized and FNS compact.

We are all different. Each shooter should chose and shoot what they like without regard for the opinion of anyone else.

 

[cmj8591]

If the gun is new, it might just need to wear in. It sounds like the sear is not engaging. Try putting the stock sear spring back in and see if the problem goes away.

 

[Elliot45]

Putting an Apex part in has nothing to do with being "cool" I agree with whoever said installing Apex makes a good trigger a great trigger. A few years back I installed a complete Apex kit in my M&P Pro and it's been great. But even better, I put the Apex ultimate stricker block and an Apex sear in my Shield and it's even better than my M&P Pro. I can't see how one can argue that a trigger that is smoother, has shorter take up and a shorter reset cannot improve your accuracy, it sure did mine. My Shield feels like I'm firing my Colt Gold Cup .45. It is so much easier than when you are having to tug on the trigger or worry about it twisting one way or the other. I think that most people who put down the Apex parts probably have never used them and don't want to put up the money to purchased them so they convince themselves that with practice everything will be ok. Well, I practiced both ways and I'm for more accurate with my pistols that have Apex parts in them than the others. In fact, it has saved me a ton of money because now when I look at a new gun and dry fire them to test the trigger, none of them feel that good and I don't purchase them. Most people would agree that they love a good trigger. That's my 2 cents worth. Regards, Elliot45

 

[nicalex]

I just installed an Apex flat-faced trigger kit on my M&P 2.0 compact. Now when I try to dry fire it to test the action I’m having an issue. When I rack the slide and pull the trigger the first time nothing happens, but on the second trigger pull it clicks. This happens every time. I’m not sure what I did wrong to make it only engage on the second trigger pull. Any ideas?

Are you closing the actuator before putting slide back on?

 

[GKC]

In fact, it has saved me a ton of money because now when I look at a new gun and dry fire them to test the trigger, none of them feel that good and I don't purchase them.

Well, that's a new one...

 

[Badgerboy1]

There's no reason for this. A guy has an issue and is asking for help. If you can't help, the least you can do is keep quiet.

Perfect post. My thoughts exactly.

 

[CCHGN]

I think Navy is ahead.

Oh, so now it's a competition? I didn't get that memo

 

[CCHGN]

We always are...never forget, the USMC is a department of the Navy!

Yes, technically, but we filed for divorce on 11, July, 1798

OK, so one point I left out (in case of this) was that in your 1st post to the OP, you disparaged him, but then when confronted with it, tried the aggressive/passive denial (what, who me? I didn't do anything, what did I do?) "Well I just asked a simple, legit question...". Hmm, it wasn't simple, legit nor true. The FACT is you derailed or even hijacked his thread so badly that it became about you (and your post, where you disparaged him), that he never replied back, so we don't know if he got his answer, or got it fixed or anything. I hope he got it fixed and that you realize your error, too.

 

[Steve912]

Yes, technically, but we filed for divorce on 11, July, 1798

OK, so one point I left out (in case of this) was that in your 1st post to the OP, you disparaged him, but then when confronted with it, tried the aggressive/passive denial (what, who me?

Looks like your response is a bit late.

 

[Regulator]

This thread started with a simple question. All that he wanted was a little help with it. Gives a new meaning to off-target.

 

[mckenney99]

Really surprised it's lasted this long before it has gotten padlocked.

Not sure even these guys can get this one back on the tracks!

 

[Regulator]

Your thumbnail is flat out on the mark.. Love it!

 

[marathonrunner]

I just installed an Apex flat-faced trigger kit on my M&P 2.0 compact. Now when I try to dry fire it to test the action I’m having an issue. When I rack the slide and pull the trigger the first time nothing happens, but on the second trigger pull it clicks. This happens every time. I’m not sure what I did wrong to make it only engage on the second trigger pull. Any ideas?

apex machining is not as good as other aftermarket triggers that I have looked at. But for a carry gun I would never put an apex in my gun as the stock 2.0 is fine.

 

[VikingDude]

Since everyone else have voiced their opinion I might as well do so.

Someone suggested taking it apart and install it again, that is a good advice and watch the YouTube video Apex have made on the installation. If you still have problems then call Apex or seek out a gunsmith.

As for the whole installing a Apex kit or not debate. This is purely a subjective preference. The M2.0 trigger is a big improvement from the first generation M&P and still better than some polymer pistols like Glock. But an amazing trigger and better than for example Walther PPQ? No it’s not, and for me it was essential to install an Apex trigger in my M&P that is going to be used only for competition. But that is only my opinion, and bashing someone for doing so and saying it’s not needed is somewhat narrow minded.

But looking at this objectively and what people should have in mind when considering installing an Apex trigger. Smith & Wesson have done drop tests with Apex triggers installed and they have fired during the tests where the stock trigger have held up. Should the M&P with Apex be used as an EDC knowing this information? Is it acceptable to have a pistol for competition use only if it might fire if dropped? I know what the right answer is for me, everyone else should make up their own mind.

 

[Tiribulus]

I would really love to know how the OP made out on this.

 

[Steve912]

Smith & Wesson have done drop tests with Apex triggers installed and they have fired during the tests where the stock trigger have held up.

That's kind of a semi-sorta-majorly-important aspect.

Have a source on S&W's testing & results?

 

[Muss Muggins]

Maybe that fella' is considering one himself and wants to know what all the hype is about from somebody who just bought one . . .

I can't speak for the OP, but I installed Apex kits in my M & P's to improve the triggers. Crisp, less pre - travel and over travel. Much better than the hinged trigger!
People that want to keep it stock can do so. It's called freedom.
People who don't have experience with the Apex kit shouldn't use a members request for help as a platform for sharing ignorance about a trigger they haven't installed and don't use.

 

[handejector]

Zombie argument, part of which is with a dead man..........
Bye.