Approached by a cop

[rchance]

Has anyone ever been made and approached by a cop and ask for their ccw permit?

 

[rchance]

Has anyone ever been made and approached by a cop and ask for their ccw permit?

 

[Wyatt Earp]

I was once approached by a highway patrolman while making a phone call from the side of the freeway (truck overheated).

I informed him that I was carrying (as the law requires in OH) but if I had not told him he would not have noticed. He had to ask where I had it.

 

[MSgt G]

I've never had one stop me just to see if I have a driver's license, why would they approach me just to ask for my Georgia Firearm License?

 

[Wyatt Earp]

The question presumes that the peace officer saw a bulge that made him suspicious and would ask if you were carrying a gun legally or not.

 

[Beans]

I was stopped in the Las Vegas area as the NV state vehicle's license plate on the vehicle, I was using come back "not on file".

Which was common for the agency I was working for.

There is no ID marking on the plate to indicate it is a state vehicle.

The metro officer, after running my DL asked about my CCW and state ID.

When your name and or your DL is run in Nevada the NV CCW information is automatically displayed on the in-cruiser's display screen

There is/was no requirment to Inform any LEO of the CCW unless asked.

 

[rchance]

Well I guess everyone else probably does as I do sometimes and just throw on a blackhawk holster with a big 45 stuck in it with a shirt over it and it does leave an imprint to the trained eye.

Originally posted by MSgt G:
I've never had one stop me just to see if I have a driver's license, why would they approach me just to ask for my Georgia Firearm License?

 

[rchance]

Well I'm curious to know where you had it. I travel through Ohio a lot and by what I read in your laws you could have a loaded gun in your car as long as it's in a holster on the person or locked in a case.

Originally posted by Wyatt Earp:
I was once approached by a highway patrolman while making a phone call from the side of the freeway (truck overheated).

I informed him that I was carrying (as the law requires in OH) but if I had not told him he would not have noticed. He had to ask where I had it.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by rchance:
Well I'm curious to know where you had it. I travel through Ohio a lot and by what I read in your laws you could have a loaded gun in your car as long as it's in a holster on the person or locked in a case.

Actually, as of 9/9/08 you can have a loaded gun anywhere in the vehicle as long as it is in some closed compartment (like a glove box or center console) or on your person. If you stick it in a glove box or center console it won't have to be locked after 9/9/08.

I always carry on-body in a holster. I only place my gun in the console or glove box if I have to go into a place that I have to disarm under penalty of felony. Otherwise the gun goes where I go.

I am very good at concealment by paying attention to what I wear. I could make you look me over hard and you would not notice the 4" N frame I am carrying.

 

[rchance]

10-4. I usally cary my glock30 in an ankle holster but I'm always on the lookout for a better holster. After reading the article about the attempted armed robbery in the lounge I'm considering getting a blackhawk holster for quick release of my glock 30. I have them for other guns and their pretty quick.

 

[Parson Colt]

I was once asked by a cop if I had two on me. Of course, he knew me, knew I had one, and had left his in his car. A wild-eyed drunk was approaching us as we walked with our wives after dinner, so he asked the question. That's the only time I've been asked. And, of course, I did have two. The drunk wasn't so drunk he was totally stupid, so after looking us over, he crossed the street rather quickly.

 

[bigt5150]

I usually volunteer it before they ask as a sign of good faith and so that they can't say I was occluding this information.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by bigt5150:
I usually volunteer it before they ask as a sign of good faith and so that they can't say I was occluding this information.

Mistake.

I never volunteer ANYTHING to a peace officer who is interviewing me in the course of his official duties.

I inform peace officers that I am carrying a weapon only in states that require me so. Otherwise, I will truthfully answer any question they have unless doing so will violate the 5th Amendment. In that case I will lawyer up.

When they are interviewing you in an official capacity, the police are NEVER your friends

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by rchance:
10-4. I usally cary my glock30 in an ankle holster but I'm always on the lookout for a better holster. After reading the article about the attempted armed robbery in the lounge I'm considering getting a blackhawk holster for quick release of my glock 30. I have them for other guns and their pretty quick.

Why are you so adamant about retention holsters? That's the last thing I want when trying to get a concealed handgun into action.

 

[rchance]

I have other holsters also but I just like the blackhawk. It just feels good and I know that if I ever get into a scuffle for some reason(hope not) that my weapon will stay put.

Originally posted by Wyatt Earp:

Originally posted by rchance:
10-4. I usally cary my glock30 in an ankle holster but I'm always on the lookout for a better holster. After reading the article about the attempted armed robbery in the lounge I'm considering getting a blackhawk holster for quick release of my glock 30. I have them for other guns and their pretty quick.

Why are you so adamant about retention holsters? That's the last thing I want when trying to get a concealed handgun into action.

 

[Smitty500Mag]

Originally posted by Wyatt Earp:

Originally posted by bigt5150:
I usually volunteer it before they ask as a sign of good faith and so that they can't say I was occluding this information.

Mistake.

I never volunteer ANYTHING to a peace officer who is interviewing me in the course of his official duties.

I inform peace officers that I am carrying a weapon only in states that require me so. Otherwise, I will truthfully answer any question they have unless doing so will violate the 5th Amendment. In that case I will lawyer up.

When they are interviewing you in an official capacity, the police are NEVER your friends

Exactly! Why offer up info that's not required? Who knows where the cop just came from. Maybe he is still keyed up from a high speed chase and the first thing he hears from your mouth is "I'VE GOT A GUN!"

No thanks I'll just do what the law allows and keep my mouth shut unless asked.

Smitty

 

[BighandEd]

proper concealment boys.. my biz has me working among cops every week...multiples and I'm with them all day long. In 6 years of CCW, I've always worn my 32 in belt pouch and never had an LEO ask me about it or give indication that they've noticed it.
When I do carry a larger pistol I take great care to know that it's concealed..if I can't dress for it I don't carry the gun.

 

[bigt5150]

Originally posted by Wyatt Earp:

Originally posted by bigt5150:
I usually volunteer it before they ask as a sign of good faith and so that they can't say I was occluding this information.

Mistake.

I never volunteer ANYTHING to a peace officer who is interviewing me in the course of his official duties.

I inform peace officers that I am carrying a weapon only in states that require me so. Otherwise, I will truthfully answer any question they have unless doing so will violate the 5th Amendment. In that case I will lawyer up.

When they are interviewing you in an official capacity, the police are NEVER your friends

I see your point of view Wyatt. The reason I stated I would volunteer that info was because that's what the CHL instructor told us was the most practical and prudent thing to do. He said that if the permit holder didn't tell the officer he had a permit, was carrying and the officer found out while he was running the license then he "technically" could still get you for carrying a concealed weapon. Keep in mind that was 2 years ago before this last Texas legislature clarified some gun laws especially with regards to travel.
I guess I'm now going to contact my CHL instructor to clarify this.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by bigt5150:
the CHL instructor said that if the permit holder didn't tell the officer he had a permit, was carrying and the officer found out while he was running the license then he "technically" could still get you for carrying a concealed weapon.

That is ridiculous. Think about it. There is no such technicality. If your license is valid and on your person then you are legal whether you tell the cop that you are carrying or not (assuming the encounter happens in a state like Texas where notification is not legally mandatory).

Originally posted by bigt5150:
I guess I'm now going to contact my CHL instructor to clarify this.

Why don't you ask a Texas attorney that is knowledgeable in this area? We have several on the board.

IME, the legal knowledge of CHL instructors varies from excellent to "don't know ****". Particularly so in Ohio where our CCW law has been modified twice already in the last four years. One of the students at a handgun fighting class I attended back in May is am Ohio CHL instructor. He was completely confused by the changes that happened in 2007 and will probabaly be even more confused with the changes set to take effect on 9/9.

I prefer to read the state statutes myself and have an attorney clarify what I don't understand. Not cops, not CHL instructors, not gun store clerks. Lawyers. That is their expertise, and they stake their professional reputation and license on giving you correct advise. Do CHL instructors stake so much on what they tell you? This is particularly so when acting on incorrect advice can land you into felony-land.

Another reason why I ask my attorney is that advice is generally worth what you pay for it. So feel free to disregard everything I said since I don't charge.

 

[armadillo]

Texas CHL holders are required to tell the officer. Section 411.205 says that if an officer requests identification, you must show both your DL and CHL. If you don't do it - the CHL can be suspended.