ar field repair kit

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midway sells dpms and bushmaster ar field repair kits.
bushmaster includes a cam pin while the dpms kit includes takedown and trigger pins.
both include many springs, some detents, and both sell for $34.99.
does the cam pin break and should be included in a field kit?
 
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If you break a cam pin, I doubt your rifle (and probably you) are in the fight.
Exception were some of the early .308 DPMS rifles, they'd destroy cam pins and crack bolt carriers.
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If both kits contain the same parts for the same price, take the one with an extra cam pin, free stuff is always good!
If it's a choice between a cam pin or takedown/trigger pins, go with the takedown/trigger pins.
 
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I wouldn't worry to much about the cam pin. In my kit which is stored in the grip of my rifle are springs, extractor, and a firing pin.
 
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The cam pin is a pretty stout piece and I have never seen one fail in the 40 or so years I have been firing AR's. What I have seen fail more than once is the bolt, cracking in half at the cam pin hole. The bolt is extremely thin in this area and the repeated stress of the bolt locking and unlocking can cause it to fracture. The other failure I have seen more than once is the gas key coming loose turning your rifle into a single shot. I see that several manufactures of bolt carriers are now making the gas key integral with the carrier to prevent this from happening.

My spare parts kit includes springs and pins along with a spare bolt. Make sure your gas key is secure and staked properly.
 
I bought one of those bubble packs almost 30 years ago. It's around here somewhere. I've never needed it. Though I've never run my AR's hard.

Perhaps an extra complete bolt would be the way to go.

Over the years I've just bought all 4 family members AR's. Same with Glocks.

Emory
 
I've never seen a cam fail in normal or heavy usage. I have only seen one case in a specific set of conditions while intentionally firing to destruction for testing where the cam integrity was compromised. It is possible under some specific cirumstances for the firing pin to fuse to the cam or the cam to fuse to the bolt or bolt carrier but thats talking about heat values and forces way beyond what you will ever encounter and if you did encounter them you will not have survived anyway.

Its possible for a broken firing pin or bolt, in some cases a bolt carrier, to dig into the metal of the cam in which case the cam will probably still work but its better to replace it if the stuff dug in beyond small simple light scratches or scarring. Only seen that happen one time in going on 39 years with this weapon platform. Broken firing pin put a small scar on the cam, it was smoothed over with some sand paper and kept in service without any effects but ended up being replaced anyway in normal maintenance.

If it comes to the point where a cam is stressed or compromised so severely that it will fail, its more likely the bolt, bolt carrier, firing pin, or those things in the lower, will have been destroyed or compromised in some manner first and the cam will have survived intact. Its most likely the weapon will have been damaged beyond the point where a small parts replacement would return the weapon to service before a cam is compromised beyond use.

My suggestion is this, to have on hand; Get a lower parts kit that contains everything in the lower (probably never use them all, but ya never know and the kits are reasonably priced), a complete bolt/bolt carrier with firing pin for fast replacement if need be (moderate to heavy lubed - maintain heavy lube to help make sure for emergency needs replacement - and ready to go of course), a few sets of gas rings, a few firing pin retaining pins in case you lose one during stripping down the BCG (hate it when that happens), and a spare charging handle.
 
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Mostly the pins of all types are in there because of the likelihood of losing one when stripping the rifle down in the field.
 
thanks for all the appropriate answers.
i'll adhere and get a spring heavy field repair kit, probably with a bolt.
 
sorry I am late Joe Bob outfitters has spring heavy kits that are a bit cheaper than those quoted!!
 
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