Are all 45 ACP Moon clips the same?

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Probably been asked 1000 times, but the search didn't find it for me....
Some places sell them for $2 each, some for less than a buck. Will the ones for the M1917 fit the 25-2, 625, etc.? These seem like a good price but I want to be sure they'll fit my 1917 Army before I order them.

Thanks.


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From what I've found any .45 acp moon clip or half moon clip for that matter will work in any Smith and Wesson revolver chambered for .45 acp, this would include the 625 and its many variations as well as the pre model 25 and model 25 through its many variations. I found moon clips to be a pain in the butt, if they get a little bent it can make loading troublesome and they are soft and bend easily, regardless of how clever you build your de-mooner or how well designed your purchased model is. I built mine out of 1/2" diameter copper tubing, long enough to hold all six. I gave up on moon clips and switched completely over to 45 Auto Rim, never looked back.
 
The ones from Smith and wesson used to be made from spring steel. I don't know if they still are. I did buy some cheap ones off ebay and cheap they were bent very easy. I don't know if the half moon original G.I. ones were spring steel but I doubt it they were designed to be used and tossed.
 
Moon clips are one of those very personal preferences and each person feels their choice is the best. Most try different ones and make a decision before they buy in quantity. That would be my suggestion, so I haven't helped you there.

But I can recommend the most commonly considered best loader shown in post #5 here: http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-hand-ejectors-1896-1961/476806-bmt-mooner.html
And many prefer their own design.

The GI clips are as good a steel as any, and best price usually but of course only 1/2 moon, thx to the government shippers. Here's some history you might find interesting:

The ‘half-moon’ clip evolved from a ‘full-moon’ clip design originally invented by S&W for rimmed cartridges in their ‘Top Break’ #3 revolvers in the latter part of the 19th century as a form of what we know today as a ‘speed loader’. The original intended use was never put into production however. Probably because Smith didn’t have much luck obtaining Army contracts for their revolver. A good idea languished for 30 years or so until the “The .45 Hand Ejector U.S. Army - Model 1917” was designed to chamber the 45 ACP rimless round. Why then did Smith & Wesson invent and patent the half-moon clip?

Very simple as it turns out; the military correctly concluded that pre-loaded half-moon clips could be packaged much more efficiently than pre-loaded full-moon clips. Which Smith, at the request of the Army allowed Colt to also use free of charge. Alas, the full-moon clip was once again relegated to the back burner of firearms ingenuity. Only in the more recent past, after 100 + years since its invention, has the currently popular full-moon clip finally gained its full due.

The half-moon clip was patented in 1918 (application filed August 15, 1917) by Joseph H. Wesson, one of Daniel B. Wesson's sons, who also designed a machine to load them. He designed various full-moon clips and even a quick loading carrier for 24 cartridges.

The delivery system to the US Army :

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Now I'll admit I've switched over to 45 AR like Kinman above in my DA S&Ws for fun shooting. Ironically however, the most current use I have for moon clips is for my Ruger single action 45 convertible as a speed loader! Swapping cylinders with preloaded clipped 45 ACP or 45 Colt is much faster than individually unloading and reloading separate rounds in serious social situations. :-) The clips are slightly modified S&W size moon clips which work perfectly in the mid size single action Ruger frame.

I've shaved both the 45 Colt cyl and 45 ACP to work with clips. Either round still works w/o clips by headspacing on the chamber shoulder instead of the rim. 45 AR also work in either cylinder as well. Ironically, using the full moon clips on 45 Colt is almost exactly what S&W originally intended over 130 years ago.
 
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Aren't most competition type revolvers opened up a tad to eliminate any problems that could arise from a bent clip. A friend of mine told me about how he lost a very important competition he was in due to a bent clip, which was part of his reasoning for leaving them behind and going with something he could defend his life with as it was a law enforcement competition.
 
I buy the cheapest I can find: 3 or 4 for a dollar.

Never had a problem. I can't imagine buying the more expensive ones.
 
Whoa, I expected a quick "Yes, dummy," but got quite a bit of feedback. I ordered 20 more than the 10 I already have, that should be enough for now...for what, I have no idea.

Thanks.
 
Anyone tried the plastic moon clips?

Russ

I use the "Rimz" polymer clips and I am very happy with them for use at the range. Easy to load and unload with your fingers and hold the cartridge reasonably well.

I would not carry them in my pocket in a combat situation, but I am not likely to be carrying my 625 either.
 
I will second the Rimz polymer for range use... super easy...
only steel for the pocket... for steel I have used the cheap ones, factory ones and expensive ones... I do not compete so speed loading is not an issue for me... and have not been able to tell which ones are which when I de-moon after a day at the range... so i just buy out of the bucket at gun shows...
 
I bought my Moon Clips from Dillon Precision as well as the CCW loader/unloader tool. If you haven't had experience with the CCW tool, I highly recommend it as the easiest way to load the steel clips. The de-mooner works well but the twin handle ryanite one looks super cool.
 
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