Are You a Felon?...ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) Reinterpreted???

[ladyT]

Category II—Guns and Armament

*(a) Guns over caliber .50 (i.e., 12.7 mm), whether towed, airborne, self-propelled, or fixed, including but not limited to, howitzers, mortars, cannons, recoilless rifles, and grenade launchers.

(b) Flame throwers specifically designed or modified for military application.

(c) Apparatus and devices for launching or delivering ordnance, other than those articles controlled in Category IV.

*(d) Kinetic energy weapon systems specifically designed or modified for destruction or rendering mission-abort of a target.

(e) Signature control materials (e.g., parasitic, structural, coatings, screening) techniques, and equipment specifically designed, developed, configured, adapted or modified to alter or reduce the signature (e.g., muzzle flash suppression, radar, infrared, visual, laser/electro-optical, acoustic) of defense articles controlled by this category.

*(f) Engines specifically designed or modified for the self-propelled guns and howitzers in paragraph (a) of this category.

(g) Tooling and equipment specifically designed or modified for the production of defense articles controlled by this category.

(h) Test and evaluation equipment and test models specifically designed or modified for the articles controlled by this category. This includes but is not limited to diagnostic instrumentation and physical test models.

(i) Autoloading systems for electronic programming of projectile function for the defense articles controlled in this Category.

(j) All other components, parts, accessories, attachments and associated equipment specifically designed or modified for the articles in paragraphs (a) through (i) of this category. This includes but is not limited to mounts and carriages for the articles controlled in this category.

(k) Technical data (as defined in §120.10 of this subchapter) and defense services (as defined in §120.9 of this subchapter) directly related to the defense articles described in paragraphs (a) through (j) of this category. Technical data directly related to the manufacture or production of any defense articles described elsewhere in this category that are designated as Significant Military Equipment (SME) shall itself be designated SME.

(l) The following interpretations explain and amplify the terms used in this category and elsewhere in this subchapter:

(1) The kinetic energy weapons systems in paragraph (d) of this category include but are not limited to:

(i) Launch systems and subsystems capable of accelerating masses larger than 0.1g to velocities in excess of 1.6km/s, in single or rapid fire modes, using methods such as: electromagnetic, electrothermal, plasma, light gas, or chemical;

(ii) Prime power generation, electric armor, energy storage, thermal management; conditioning, switching or fuel-handling equipment; and the electrical interfaces between power supply gun and other turret electric drive function;

(iii) Target acquisition, tracking fire control or damage assessment systems; and

(iv) Homing seeker, guidance or divert propulsion (lateral acceleration) systems for projectiles.

(2) The articles in this category include any end item, component, accessory, attachment part, firmware, software or system that has been designed or manufactured using technical data and defense services controlled by this category.

(3) The articles specifically designed or modified for military application controlled in this category include any article specifically developed, configured, or adapted for military application.

 

[ladyT]

Category III—Ammunition/Ordnance



*(a) Ammunition/ordnance for the articles in Categories I and II of this section.

(b) Ammunition/ordnance handling equipment specifically designed or modified for the articles controlled in this category, such as, belting, linking, and de-linking equipment.

(c) Equipment and tooling specifically designed or modified for the production of defense articles controlled by this category.

(d) Components, parts, accessories, attachments and associated equipment specifically designed or modified for the articles in this category:

*(1) Guidance and control components for the articles in paragraph (a) of this category;

*(2) Safing, arming and fuzing components (including target detection and localization devices) for the articles in paragraph (a) of this category; and

(3) All other components, parts, accessories, attachments and associated equipment for the articles in paragraphs (a) through (c) of this category.

(e) Technical data (as defined in §120.10 of this subchapter) and defense services (as defined in §120.9 of this subchapter) directly related to the defense articles described in paragraphs (a) through (d) of this category. Technical data directly related to the manufacture or production of any defense articles described elsewhere in this category that are designated as Significant Military Equipment (SME) shall itself be designated SME.

(f) The following explains and amplifies the terms used in this category and elsewhere in this subchapter:

(1) The components, parts, accessories and attachments controlled in this category include, but are not limited to cartridge cases, powder bags (or other propellant charges), bullets, jackets, cores, shells (excluding shotgun shells), projectiles (including canister rounds and submunitions therefor), boosters, firing components therefor, primers, and other detonating devices for the defense articles controlled in this category.

(2) This category does not control cartridge and shell casings that, prior to export, have been rendered useless beyond the possibility of restoration for use as a cartridge or shell casing by means of heating, flame treatment, mangling, crushing, cutting or popping.

(3) Equipment and tooling in paragraph (c) of this category does not include equipment for hand-loading ammunition.

(4) The articles in this category include any end item, component, accessory, attachment, part, firmware, software, or system that has been designed or manufactured using technical data and defense services controlled by this category.

(5) The articles specifically designed or modified for military application controlled in this category include any article specifically developed, configured, or adapted for military application

 

[ladyT]

I would say barring intervention by Congress or the SCOTUS we are screwed. Right down to our cleaning mat with a parts diagram on it.

 

[les.b]

ladyT:

I "liked" your posts, but just to acknowledge that I hope you are wrong, but am afraid you may be right, and there is no button for that. Thanks for contributing to the thread. I am not a lawyer, and reading this stuff gives me a headache. But I think we all need to be paying attention, as best we can to the activities of those persons who hold public office, and those who seek public office.

Best Regards, Les

 

[les.b]

Flipmeister:

I have a few Class III items but no flamethrower! Did you see the episode of that gun show on TV a couple of years ago where they rebuilt one for Woody Williams? Woody is from my hometown, and is around still, in his 80s or maybe 90s now. When he was on the show, he actually, at his age, was able to strap it on and demonstrate its use.

We are very proud of Woody here, and our National Gaurd Armory is named for him.

A little off track, but just wanted to share.

Best Regards, Les

 

[ladyT]

ladyT:

I "liked" your posts, but just to acknowledge that I hope you are wrong, but am afraid you may be right, and there is no button for that. Thanks for contributing to the thread. I am not a lawyer, and reading this stuff gives me a headache. But I think we all need to be paying attention, as best we can to the activities of those persons who hold public office, and those who seek public office.

Best Regards, Les

The source:
US State Department - Policy - Directorate of Defense Trade Controls

 

[jag312]

I just want to specific here. I have a Ruger Mini-14 GB with a folding stock, pistol grip, and flash suppressor. I didn't want to register it in California as a Category 3 Assault Weapon, so I replaced the stock with a conventional fixed stock without a pistol grip and removed the flash suppressor. Now it was a good gun and did not require registration. Am I now a manufacturer? The original stock and flash suppressor were saved for when I moved to Nevada.

 

[les.b]

I just want to specific here. I have a Ruger Mini-14 GB with a folding stock, pistol grip, and flash suppressor. I didn't want to register it in California as a Category 3 Assault Weapon, so I replaced the stock with a conventional fixed stock without a pistol grip and removed the flash suppressor. Now it was a good gun and did not require registration. Am I now a manufacturer? The original stock and flash suppressor were saved for when I moved to Nevada.

Well, I've read that letter, and the supplementary material a dozen times, and I have no idea. I doubt if most lawyers, even those who specialize in this sort of thing would be able to tell. It is vague, and probably intentionally confusing. I'll bet that one of the purposes of this document is to confuse and intimidate us.

Best Regards, Les

 

[roundgunner]

Obama regime targets gunsmiths with new executive order

A friend sent me this tonight so I came here to see if anyone knows anything about this. Is this true?


Hi Warren,
I'm assuming you have seen this???? Especially the fourth bullet; when you scroll down.


Obama regime targets gunsmiths with new executive order
Posted on July 29, 2016

President Barack Obama just quietly released a new executive order that could subject casual gunsmiths to thousands of dollars in fees and other regulatory burdens if they so much as thread a barrel on a firearm.
The executive order gives new authority to the State Department's Directorate of Defense trade Controls, which oversees International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) and the underlying Arms Export Control Act (AECA).
From the State Department: "Any person who engages in the United States in the business of manufacturing or exporting or temporarily importing defense articles, or furnishing defense services, is required to register with the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls … For the purpose of this subchapter, engaging in such a business requires only one occasion of manufacturing or exporting or temporarily importing a defense article or furnishing a defense service. A manufacturer who does not engage in exporting must nevertheless register."
According to the presidential directive, firearm modifications that do not require "drilling, cutting, or machining" are not affected by the new rules.
But a commercial gunsmith who makes just one modification on the list of activities the government believes improves "the accuracy, caliber, or operation" of a firearm is subject to the new rules.
Examples of included gunsmithing activities include:
• Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability of assembled or repaired firearms;
• Modifications to a firearm that change round capacity;
• The production of firearm parts (including, but not limited to, barrels, stocks, cylinders, breech mechanisms, triggers, silencers, or suppressors);
• The systemized production of ammunition, including the automated loading or reloading of ammunition;
• The machining or cutting of firearms, e.g., threading of muzzles or muzzle brake installation requiring machining, that results in an enhanced capability;
• Rechambering firearms through machining, cutting, or drilling;
• Chambering, cutting, or threading barrel blanks; and
• Blueprinting firearms by machining the barrel.
Any of those activities would require registration with the government and an annual $2,250 fee.
The National Rifle Association notes that the rules are needlessly confusing for a reason.
"The administration's latest move serves as a timely reminder of how the politicized and arrogant abuse of executive power can be used to suppress Second Amendment rights and curtail lawful firearm-related commerce. That lesson should not be forgotten when voters go to the polls this November," the 2nd Amendment group said.

 

[les.b]

A friend sent me this tonight so I came here to see if anyone knows anything about this. Is this true?


Hi Warren,
I'm assuming you have seen this???? Especially the fourth bullet; when you scroll down.


Obama regime targets gunsmiths with new executive order
Posted on July 29, 2016

President Barack Obama just quietly released a new executive order that could subject casual gunsmiths to thousands of dollars in fees and other regulatory burdens if they so much as thread a barrel on a firearm.
The executive order gives new authority to the State Department's Directorate of Defense trade Controls, which oversees International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) and the underlying Arms Export Control Act (AECA).
From the State Department: "Any person who engages in the United States in the business of manufacturing or exporting or temporarily importing defense articles, or furnishing defense services, is required to register with the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls … For the purpose of this subchapter, engaging in such a business requires only one occasion of manufacturing or exporting or temporarily importing a defense article or furnishing a defense service. A manufacturer who does not engage in exporting must nevertheless register."
According to the presidential directive, firearm modifications that do not require "drilling, cutting, or machining" are not affected by the new rules.
But a commercial gunsmith who makes just one modification on the list of activities the government believes improves "the accuracy, caliber, or operation" of a firearm is subject to the new rules.
Examples of included gunsmithing activities include:
• Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability of assembled or repaired firearms;
• Modifications to a firearm that change round capacity;
• The production of firearm parts (including, but not limited to, barrels, stocks, cylinders, breech mechanisms, triggers, silencers, or suppressors);
• The systemized production of ammunition, including the automated loading or reloading of ammunition;
• The machining or cutting of firearms, e.g., threading of muzzles or muzzle brake installation requiring machining, that results in an enhanced capability;
• Rechambering firearms through machining, cutting, or drilling;
• Chambering, cutting, or threading barrel blanks; and
• Blueprinting firearms by machining the barrel.
Any of those activities would require registration with the government and an annual $2,250 fee.
The National Rifle Association notes that the rules are needlessly confusing for a reason.
"The administration's latest move serves as a timely reminder of how the politicized and arrogant abuse of executive power can be used to suppress Second Amendment rights and curtail lawful firearm-related commerce. That lesson should not be forgotten when voters go to the polls this November," the 2nd Amendment group said.

Warren:

Well, I put a link to this material in the first post. But I'm glad you put it out there where more folks will see it.

Yes, this material is what has me upset. I have a feeling that this "directive" is part of a much bigger picture, maybe a piece of a "picture puzzle". And when we finally get all the pieces, and move them around on the table until they make a picture... I don't think that we are going to like what we see.

You see that ordinary activities like reloading or making a "stock", even if done "one time", are enough to require you to register and pay a big fee! And who would even know how to do it, and who could afford it? And why in the world should we have to in the first place???

I don't want to have this thread shut down because we are talking "politics", but there is a pattern here, and our rights are slowly being eroded, nit by the folks who have the authority under the constitution to legislate, i.e., Congress, but by the executive branch.

I feel that another of the pieces is the recent atrocity perpetuated by the rouge Attorney General of Massachusetts. I'm sure that you are aware of this, and there is a good thread going on it as well. There are brush fires going on all over the country. Billionaire Playboy and wannabe Nanny, Michael Bloomberg is spending at least $50,000,000.00 this election season to try to elect anti-freedom candidates all over the country, and there are a lot of dot-com billionaires forking over big bucks to help him out. And don't forget the mainstream media mostly give these guys free advertising, and cheerleading.

Who do we have? Us. True, there are a lot of us. But mostly we don't have $50,000,000.00 to toss in the kitty. We have the NRA, and many good state affiliates, and some other progun groups who are also doing good work.

But I'm afraid that this is the most dangerous election of our life time. With the SCOTUS at stake, we can't afford not to become activists.

Best Regards, Les

 

[stu1ritter]

There is currently a petition being posted at petitions.whitehouse.gov to remove gunsmiths from the ITAR regulations. The petition is found at
Remove Gunsmithing from ITAR. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government Please pass this around and sign the petition if you are so inclined.

Stu