Arkansas to become 5th state for constitutional carry...

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My home state has a new law that goes into effect in July or August, act 746. I'm just curious what this means for those who were thinking of getting a CCL? Only 4 other states have this law, Vermont, Alaska, Wyoming and Arizona. Just curious if anyone is from any of these states and if there is a need for a concealed carry permit? The link below is short and to the point about the new law..THanks

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Act 746 is one of those mysteries of the Arkansas legislature and it's amazing it passed at all, much less that it passed without any real debate. It was not intended to be a "constitutional carry" law. What is was intended to do was clear up the ambiguous "journey" language of the law already on the books and clean up the intent portion of the original law. Cleaning up a little language in the existing law shouldn't be that big a deal. But it turns out the language cleanup had a significant impact once it was passed.

The representative who presented the bill expected it to get some resistance in the House . . . but it didn't. He also expected it to get some resistance in the Senate, but it sailed right through without any notice. It was never expected to be signed into law by Governor Mike Beebe, but he did.

After the bill whispered through to become law, someone finally took notice and said "what just happened!" I heard a report that the governor doesn't remember signing it.

The main point of the law is the definition of "journey" to mean outside your county of residence. Therefore, while inside your county of residence you are not considered on a journey and a concealed carry permit would be necessary to carry.
 
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Just curious if anyone is from any of these states and if there is a need for a concealed carry permit?
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You don't need a permit to carry in Wyoming, but if you want to carry in other states I'd recommend getting one anyway.

I live in a small town in the NE corner. Rapid City SD is the closest big city and we go there a lot. Plus my wife has folks in Indiana and OK, so her Wyoming permit covers her there. Plus with the permit you can skip the background checks when you go to buy a gun.

I don't have one, but I carry per the LEOSA.
 
kraigwy said:
You don't need a permit to carry in Wyoming, but if you want to carry in other states I'd recommend getting one anyway.

I live in a small town in the NE corner. Rapid City SD is the closest big city and we go there a lot. Plus my wife has folks in Indiana and OK, so her Wyoming permit covers her there. Plus with the permit you can skip the background checks when you go to buy a gun.

I don't have one, but I carry per the LEOSA.
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To add a bit to Kraig's comment, you have to be 21 and a 6-month state resident to carry without a permit in Wyo. That does not give you the right to carry outside the state, so if you want reciprocity with any other state you have to have the CCW. Plus, we avoid the NICS check here if you can show the permit - that alone makes it worthwhile. If you want to buy an M1 Garand from CMP, the permit will meet the firearms training requirement. I help teach a local CCW class and always recommend that the students go ahead and get the permit.
 
kraigwy said:
You don't need a permit to carry in Wyoming, but if you want to carry in other states I'd recommend getting one anyway.

I live in a small town in the NE corner. Rapid City SD is the closest big city and we go there a lot. Plus my wife has folks in Indiana and OK, so her Wyoming permit covers her there. Plus with the permit you can skip the background checks when you go to buy a gun.

I don't have one, but I carry per the LEOSA.
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I live in a small town in the NW corner of the state. I go to Billings, MT. every once in a while. It is good to be able to carry there...................

When Wyoming brought up the legislation of Constitutional Carry, some of the LE Chiefs were not in favor. The cry was "There will be blood running down the streets"........... didn't happen and won't happen.


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States that now no longer issue CCW permits, prevent those residents of carrying concealed in states that do not issue out of state permits, or will not honor a non-resident permit of any state.

That is the consequence of constitutional carry.
They need to leave the CCW permit issue system in place for anyone travelling outside the state, and also as an alternative to the unconstitutional backgroud check system.
 
Act 746 went through as a "technical correction" to existing law. I believe that is the reason it sailed through with little fanfare.

I believe that the change to the offense of "carrying a weapon" will have greater impact than the clarification of what constitutes a journey. Prior law only required establishing that a person was carrying a handgiun, knife or club with a purpose to use it against a person (which would include self defense). The new language requires that the person be carrying the weapon with the intent to use it unlawfully. It appears that with this language, no permit is required and the "journey" exception is a moot point. The statute does not specify open or concealed, only that the weapon be on the person, in a vehicle or otherwise readily available.

I've asked my department to seek an AG opinion on this. If my assessment is correct, we in law enforcement need to get some training accomplished for our people before the law takes effect.
 
I've read muti articles about act 746 and all seem to think that it will have to be sorted out in court with a test case. Hoping the NRA would fund such. Guess we'll see!
 
We don't need a CCW to carry in AZ but I keep mine updated anyway. It makes buying another gun a lot easier when you use it as identification just zips right through.

Plus when I travel back east to Georgia all the states that I go through honor the AZ permit so I can carry all the way if I choose to.

Not too sure about the Arkansas carry though. Someone before me said you had to be outside your county. Be sure to read this thing really good before carrying so you don't get in trouble and maybe lose a gun.
 
IMO this particular law it's MUCH to "gray". Which means that I would not consider it a permit to carry unless I could afford to keep a Lawyer in my back pocket. Because I suspect that there will a lot of people spending a lot of time in Court getting all the "gray" sorted out.
 
I would go with the CCL option. This way you skip any BS that might arise or those "loop holes" that u dont see for the moment.

This will also give u the option of carrying concealed in most of ur neighboring states. In case u decide to go on vacation and want to carry with u.
 
No way

Smitty357 said:
I would go with the CCL option. This way you skip any BS that might arise or those "loop holes" that u dont see for the moment.

This will also give u the option of carrying concealed in most of ur neighboring states. In case u decide to go on vacation and want to carry with u.
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You know good and well that that makes too much sense.
Asking lawmakers to rewrite a law is dangerous business!!:D:D:D
 
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