As part of our reoccurring theme questions

[dennis40x]

As part of our reoccurring theme questions of which one of those being 200Gr bullet weights in the 45ACP see Handloader N0.264 February 2010. Brian Pearce article should answer some questions for those challenged by certain bullet configurations.

There is one other joyous subject titled: 38-Special Update Standard Pressure and +P. The author by some maybe considered a weak knee sissy especially certain advocates.

 

[NWShooter]

What is and how do I find Handloader N0.264 February 2010?

Thnx,

Chris

 

[Skip Sackett]

Only you!

Dennis,
I read that article, it's a good one. I like the 200gr bullet for the 45ACP too.

I cast my own LSWC from two molds. One is the Lee clone H&G #68, the other is a JENUINE H&G #68.

Do you have a 45ACP revolver? Brian Pearce says to cast your bullets hard for the shallow rifling of the M25/M625. Do you do that? Or know of others that do it?

I cast mine just like I do other bullets and have had great fortune.

I don't think I can hold a candle to you and your 100 yard shooting but that has nothing to do with the round or gun combination!

Thanks for the thought provoking thread!

 

[Paul5388]

I have seen several that advocate hard bullets for micro groove barrels and etc. and I think one was Paco Kelly. I haven't had good success with hard bullets, whether it was in a Handi rifle, M28, M629 or a .45 ACP M625.

As a result, I cast mostly with a 50/50 mix of clip on wheel weights to stick on wheel weights, but I do weigh the components as I add them to the melting pot. The resultant alloy comes out between 11 and 12 BHN using a Lee Hardness Tester.

I've also found the diameter of the bullet has much more to do with its shoot-ability than the hardness does.

Of course, I only strive to achieve 1" groups at 100 yards, even with handgun rounds shot from rifles, so greater accuracy than that isn't an issue for me. Recently, I was satisfied with MOCC (minute of Coke can) accuracy with a .44 Mag at 100 yards. That's sufficient for the intended purpose of the gun.

It would be nice to have access to the referenced article, but alas, some of us don't subscribe to many magazines.

 

[dennis40x]

What is and how do I find Handloader N0.264 February 2010?

Thnx,

Chris

Wolfe Publishing magazines Handloader and Rifle should be at your local newsstand/bookstore or online.

 

[dennis40x]

Dennis,

Do you have a 45ACP revolver? Brian Pearce says to cast your bullets hard for the shallow rifling of the M25/M625. Do you do that? Or know of others that do it?

I've had a 1950 & 1955 plus a model of 1988. Their gone now. I never shot cast bullets from either of the three. All that went thru them were 200Gr-SWC-MC or 230Gr FMJ. Of the three the model of 1988 shot the best @50Yds. The one I liked best thou was the 1955 strictly on esthetics.

 

[ChuckS1]

I do have a 1955 .45 Target Model and a Model 1917 and unlike Dennis, all I shoot is cast. I have a 452376, 452389, 452423, and 454424 as well as a genuine H&G 68 and H&G 130. All I shoot are wheelweights with maybe a little extra tin. Hands down, the 1955 shoots much better than the Model 1917. My standard load for the 185 and 200 grain loads is 3.6 grains of Bullseye in either an ACP or AR case. These loads will hold the X ring of an NRA B-8 target at 25 yard, which is less than 1.5", with the 1955. Having said that, the 1917 comes in with 3" groups at 25 yards with cast bullets as well.

 

[oldRoger]

I think B. Pierce does us all a favor with these in depth studies. He uses enough different powders and bullets so as to have covered the bases thoroughly. It does not take much research among the numbers to see the effect of bullet shape, and the point about bearing length of the 200gr gold point was one I hadn't considered.
Handloader is one of the very few gun mags worth their subscription price to me.

 

[Peter M. Eick]

You guys got your issues already? I have not got mine yet. Maybe monday.

 

[Skip Sackett]

Up to date!

You guys got your issues already? I have not got mine yet. Maybe monday.

Pete,
I have an electronic subscription. I get mine as soon as it is on the web. PDF format. Download it so I have it for future reference. Thankfully I have a really wide screen on this ole' laptop.

Reading it in that format is a little challenging as something are carried over to the next page and back again. Mostly on the title page of the story though. Once you get past that it is a great read.

Handloader, Rifle and Successful Hunter are all part of the online subscription. Also got one for LoadData.com. That database has all of the loads from the Handloader articles in them. While I like to quote sources, I would rather have the experience of shooting those loads and then passing on the information!

 

[dennis40x]

You guys got your issues already? I have not got mine yet. Maybe monday.

You don't receive your edition in the special wrapper and personally autographed by Dave Scovill? Gee Whiz what about the secrete handshake? You know that don't you? I'll see what I can do to resolve this matter with Dave.

Here in North Carolina printed firearms material is delivered in a timely manner that is after the letter carrier is done reading it. Apparently magazines are delivered in bundles to the post office zip code and then distributed from there. Some times this can be problematic. Our post office is small most out houses are bigger. Every other month I receive a bundle with two magazines but only one of those magazines is addressed. In there sorting process the bundle would be opened then sorted. So for a period of time one of those magazines was among the missing.

Getting back to the article at least for those that read, it should thwart the repetitive questions concerning OAL and geometry.