Auction House Algebra

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My bid was X, the final bid was 3X + 10. And that's before you add in buyer's premium, sales tax, and shipping.

I want to like this big name auction house, but nothing like getting blown away at each and every auction! At least this proves I have good taste.
 
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I was at auction and up came a Mosin-Nagant rifle made by New England Westinghouse in this country. It had a Czarist eagle on the receiver, a hammer and sickle, and the SA in a box Finnish capture mark. I thought nobody else would be interested in it. Boy was I wrong! The bidding blew past my limit to bid before I could open my mouth.
 
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Watching another discover that he isn't any good at auction house algebra can be disturbing. He found out there was:

1) Buyers' premium
2) Tax on the total
3) A FFL transfer fee because the auction house was not an FFL.

As you might guess, he wasn't happy.
 
I was at auction and up came a Mosin-Nagant rifle made by New England Westinghouse in this country. It had a Czarist eagle on the receiver, a hammer and sickle, and the SA in a box Finnish capture mark. I thought nobody else would be interested in it. Boy was I wrong! The bidding blew past my limit to bid before I could open my mouth.

SA marked NEW Mosin? Yep, that will call in the wolves. My NEW was given a Tikka barrel by the Finns in the 40s, but the bolt is NEW and so is the stock with the "English Contract" roundel, in Russian, natch.
 
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I was at auction and up came a Mosin-Nagant rifle made by New England Westinghouse in this country. It had a Czarist eagle on the receiver, a hammer and sickle, and the SA in a box Finnish capture mark. I thought nobody else would be interested in it. Boy was I wrong! The bidding blew past my limit to bid before I could open my mouth.

I found a Mosin Nagant this past Tuesday in a local shop. It was Finnish made in 1917 (hex receiver) and later captured by the Russians as they stamped a hammer and sickle on the receiver. It's in nice shape and all the parts match except it has a Russian trigger housing. The owner of the shop had no idea what it was and I wasn't going to do his research for him. I got it for a very reasonable price.
 
I found a Mosin Nagant this past Tuesday in a local shop. It was Finnish made in 1917 (hex receiver) and later captured by the Russians as they stamped a hammer and sickle on the receiver. It's in nice shape and all the parts match except it has a Russian trigger housing. The owner of the shop had no idea what it was and I wasn't going to do his research for him. I got it for a very reasonable price.

I'd like to see pictures of that over on the "Other makers" forum.

Edited to add comments after more research:

First off, the Finns did not manufacture your 1917 marked rifle. All Mosins of that period were produced in Imperial Russia or the US and marked with the Russian imperial Eagle, either on the receiver or the barrel shank. All "Finned" Mosins were taken from the Russians during the Finnish War of Independence, the Winter War, or the Continuation War. That many were rebuilt into distinct Finnish models is another story, but all the receivers were taken from Russians at some point.

Hammer and sickle stamps on the receiver are usually placed to deface the imperial eagle mark some Mosins have on the receiver. As far as the collector community can tell, this was done when the Soviet Union was created.

Finnish capture guns can only be positively ID'd by the presence of one or more of the following stamps on the barrel shank: SA in a box, 41, or a D to indicate the throat is reamed for the Finnish D166 round.

Finnish guns recaptured by the Soviets are a bit more difficult to nail down, but the following features are pretty indicative.

1) The barrel shank is SA marked, but the stock is clearly a shellacked Russian refurb.
2) The barrel shank and sometimes the stock carry a refurb facility mark. The square with a diagonal line (AKA "Diver Down") mark is the most common, from the Balakliya facility in Ukraine.
3) Any Finnish stamps on the barrel shank have been struck through
4) The import mark near the muzzle says Russia.
 
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I think peoples idea of value has gone way past what I think values are. I have many times placed a bid, (what I thought was about 85% of what I thought the item was worth), as my max bid. It is now always far out bid. I haven 't purchased anything for several years now except for a couple low valued plinkers.



I guess I worked too hard for my money all my life, I look for fairly priced items, and having difficulty finding any.
 
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