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Edit: My neighbor and I have worked out a sort-of amicable resolution, so if you chanced upon this thread please keep this in mind before posting. Thanks. :)

Long story short, a neighbor's off-leash dog always and without fail runs up to my leashed dog despite my telling its owner more than once that my dog doesn't like him running up to her. It's a shame because his dog hasn't really shown aggression; my dog just simply isn't interested in playing or interacting with him. Started telling the other dog "no" in a stern tone while blocking my dog with my body, but the other owner seemed offended that I'd do that to his "friendly" dog.

Today, on our walk, he confronted me and accused me of deliberately walking my dog past his house with the intent to "antagonize" his dog, even though she has never once initiated contact with his dog or so much as raised a peep. (She's also fixed, so it's not "that.") Told me that stopping in front of it with miss puppy was just further proof of it. Well, considering my dog freezes solid when a larger dog makes a ruckus and comes running towards her, what am I supposed to do? Drag her behind me while she's trying to assess whether she's going to be attacked or not?

I left a message for the PGC dog warden about this. This nonsense is getting nipped in the bud before it gets worse. Both for the safety of his dog and mine.

Rant off.
 
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MP1983 said:
Too bad the dog warden can't haul the owner away, I think that would solve the problem :D

Good luck & I hope the issue gets worked out.
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Agreed.

And thank you, I hope it does too with a minimum of fuss. I hate having to be the "bad guy."
 
I'll never forget when I was just a kid & walked my lab (who was obedience trained and walked on lead very well) through a neighborhood close to ours but that I did not frequent too often, and this feisty little dachshund came running from its owner's carport like a torpedo at me and my dog...at that very moment some guy in a late-60's Camero came barreling by and killed that poor little dog instantly. I always felt bad for that little fella.

If only dog owners could just be a little smarter than their dogs, we would have a much more pleasant (and safe) world to live in.
 
A few years back there was a big mongrel dog that would come over to my place and harass the livestock and chickens. None of the neighbors claimed to own it.

On one particular morning I heard squawking and saw the dog chasing the hens. I grabbed my shotgun. I indented to give it a birdshot sting to run it off but forgot that the shotgun was loaded with buckshot…Oops.
 
Chuck24 said:
Sometimes it's hard to tell which end of the leash the smart ones on.
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Hey, I resemble that remark. :p

I know what you mean, though.

MP1983 said:
I'll never forget when I was just a kid & walked my lab (who was obedience trained and walked on lead very well) through a neighborhood close to ours but that I did not frequent too often, and this feisty little dachshund came running from its owner's carport like a torpedo at me and my dog...at that very moment some guy in a late-60's Camero came barreling by and killed that poor little dog instantly. I always felt bad for that little fella.
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I would too, and it's a perfect example of what can happen to a dog off-leash. Some owners just don't seem to "get it," though. They act shocked when they realize their best friend doesn't have 100% recall.

If I didn't keep my Shiba on a leash, as soon as she caught sight of a chipmunk or deer, her fluffy tail would be the last I'd ever see of her. :( She would almost definitely get shot by hunters if I let her roam free-range.


MP1983 said:
If only dog owners could just be a little smarter than their dogs, we would have a much more pleasant (and safe) world to live in.
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I couldn't agree more. It breaks my heart to see an otherwise good dog have to suffer because of a dumb owner.
 
if your neighbor's off-leash dog is on public property or someone else's private property....make sure you make a report to the police........
 
Franklin said:
Maybe the leash should be around the owners neck?
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Trust me when I tell you that this fellow's brain seems to be pretty oxygen-deprived as it is. ;)

Jinglebob said:
A few years back there was a big mongrel dog that would come over to my place and harass the livestock and chickens. None of the neighbors claimed to own it.

On one particular morning I heard squawking and saw the dog chasing the hens. I grabbed my shotgun. I indented to give it a birdshot sting to run it off but forgot that the shotgun was loaded with buckshot…Oops.
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Shame, but it had to be done, especially since it was harassing your chickens and livestock. Left to its own devices, it probably would've killed some of them. Not an easy decision to make, but ultimately a flock of hens are worth more than a dog that no one wants to take responsibility for.

vytoland said:
if your neighbor's off-leash dog is on public property or someone else's private property....make sure you make a report to the police........
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Not much the State Police can do, unfortunately, unless the dog's owner commits a criminal act. (We have no PD where I live.) I did, however, contact the Game Commission's Dog Warden for my county who is, for all intents and purposes, a sworn LEO. I do intend to have my cell phone's camera rolling when miss puppy and I go for our morning walks past the neighbor's house (it's required evidence for establishing leash law violation complaints).
 
Rastoff said:
Don't you have a leash law where you live?
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We do. It's a PA state law, and the county Dog Warden enforces it. Since we don't have our own PD (only State Police coverage), our local ordinances are mostly unenforcable. :(
 
We had a small farm in Md. Neighbor up the road had 2 white German Shepard dogs. Came down one morning..killed two chickens. Called him and explained what happened. He denied it was his dogs. Next time they killed 3 2 outright and pulled another apart playing I guess. #4 buckshot took care of the problem. Called the guy to come get his dogs out of my yard. He was really POd when he got there. Told him he owed me for the chickens too. He filed suit against me..ended up paying for the chickens a sheep two pygmy goats and some moscovy ducks his dogs had also killed in the area. He was really Pi$$ed off when he left court. I learned many moons ago not to mess with large bad tempered dogs.... except from a distance... Still have the scars
 
I lived in a very rural area of Colorado. There were many 100 acre family ranches around. My profession required me to be out of town for a few days at a time and home late every evening. Everybody's dogs wandered around. My neighbor said my dog had killed a chicken of his and he had shot my dog with birdshot. I checked her out and just some light bleeding. I told him to make sure she did not ever kill a chicken again. He said he understood. A week later he said he caught her in the chicken coop again. I had wondered where she was off to. I only had to kill one neighbors dog. He aggressively snarled and approached my young children. He never got a second chance. The owner said she understood. A different time in a different place.
 
CoMF said:
Long story short, a neighbor's off-leash dog always and without fail runs up to my leashed dog despite my telling its owner more than once that my dog doesn't like him running up to her. It's a shame because his dog hasn't really shown aggression; my dog just simply isn't interested in playing or interacting with him. Started telling the other dog "no" in a stern tone while blocking my dog with my body, but the other owner seemed offended that I'd do that to his "friendly" dog.

Today, on our walk, he confronted me and accused me of deliberately walking my dog past his house with the intent to "antagonize" his dog, even though she has never once initiated contact with his dog or so much as raised a peep. (She's also fixed, so it's not "that.") Told me that stopping in front of it with miss puppy was just further proof of it. Well, considering my dog freezes solid when a larger dog makes a ruckus and comes running towards her, what am I supposed to do? Drag her behind me while she's trying to assess whether she's going to be attacked or not?

I left a message for the PGC dog warden about this. This nonsense is getting nipped in the bud before it gets worse. Both for the safety of his dog and mine.

Rant off.
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Did you seethe story that made national news about a week ago where some lady had a sign printed. I don't remember the exact words but, it was a house for sale sign saying she was selling because her neighbor was a douchebag. Sorry if its a word that can't be used here? But the word wasn't blotted out here--or in the news.

The lady was selling because her neighbor hated her dogs.
 
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the ringo kid said:
Did you seethe story that made national news about a week ago where some lady had a sign printed. I don't remember the exact words but, it was a house for sale sign saying she was selling because her neighbor was a douchebag. Sorry if its a word that can't be used here? But the word wasn't blotted out here--or in the news.

The lady was selling because her neighbor hated her dogs.
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I heard about it, but until now I didn't know it was because the neighbor hated her dogs. If she was following the law, it's a shame she was forced to move because of harrassment from the neighbor.

I don't hate my neighbor's dog, but I can't abide the behavior of its owner. Ever since I started telling his dog "NO," he's started doing childish things like making dog noises and slamming things down loudly to startle my dog just as we're walking past him. Real mature. :rolleyes:

Like I said, the camera will be rolling on all subsequent walks. Let's see if his behavior changes... I didn't have the time or the patience to deal with nonsense today, because miss puppy had an early vet appointment.
 
My neighbors thought it was funny training a chiwawa to be vicious. I just arrived home with the log truck. My chainsaw was still warm. The dog came across the street chasing my kid. One pull f the saw she was 16,000 rpm. I went thru 8' tall bushes in my yard like a crazed moose. I ran that dog into his backyard twice. He came at me but the second chase scared him. Can u say unicycle? =the old man was a drunk he never answered the door. I was so mad my other saw had a 32" bar on it. I was thinking what it would look like from the inside coming thru the front door. Luckily I didn't do it. I would of snatched the old man if he came out.
 
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Similar with a dog that ran out wanting to play as I passed by with Pugsters. Eh... stuff happens. After about 10 minutes of Pugsters jerking around on the leash the other dog turned back and went home. Pugsters calmed down... I go on with my day. No big deal. Second day same thing. Now it's a big deal.

LOUD knock on the door.

Woman answers.

Is your husband home?

Yes but he's asleep.

Please wake him.

Husband comes to the door.

(explanation of what I'm dealing with)

The dog keeps digging out, there's nothing we can do.

(smiling and cheerful). Yes there is. Prevent dog from digging out or i'll bring my truck by and give it a ride to the shelter and you can pay to get it back.

I'm sorry. I'll deal with it.

Never had a problem again. I guess there was something he could do after all.

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Calling animal control around here is useless. Have to deal with this stuff face to face.
 
There was another Dog attack in Our City where two Pit Bulls ran up and killed a ****zu and bit the Dogs Owner so now the City is having another meeting about whether to vote for a dangerous and or vicious Dog Law.
We all knew it was a matter of time that this would happen again since the City refused to act on a previous Dog attack that killed another small Dog.
 
No vicious dog law necessary. Simply charge the owner with the serious crime he committed; involuntary manslaughter and attempted manslaughter. This is just like gun control. No need to attack the tool, enforce the already existing law on the owner.
 
We've come a helluva long way from "a boy and his dog" days. And I don't mean that in a good way.
 
Here is how I solve this problem...had a neighbor with a chow. This dog was very aggressive. At the time I had my 84 year old WWII veteran father living with us and a 2 year old baby girl. This clown let the dog run at large all the time.
About the second time it chased me in my own house I paid him a little visit. I said, "I'm not stupid enough to tell you that you now have to tie up your dog, I already know you wont do it any way." To which he laughs and says "yeah, you're right, the dog was here before you." So I tell him, "here is what we are gonna do....when your dog don't come home...and you cant find it anywhere.......you know I got him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Never saw the dog again. I actually thought that this moron got rid of the dog. To his credit the dog was not seen running loose again. End of the big mystery when he moved away...he kept the dog under his house in the crawl space and wouldn't let it out.
Now that is 4th stage hillbilly....close the dog up under the house instead of building it a kennel. Needless to say, he wasn't accused of being very intelligent.
 
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Fishslayer said:
Yup... That evil Pitbull Peetey woulda been rounded up quick smart.... for teh chi'druhn, ya know... ;)
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Miss puppy had a run in with a off-leash pittie once. It was awful, and it happened so quickly I barely had time to react. This vicious pit bull ran over to assault her with kisses, and repeatedly smacked her in the face with her whip-like tail. It took all of my strength to pull this clearly aggressive dog away from mine. The worst was yet to come, however, because this killing machine then performed a terrifying play bow followed by a sharp "Woof!" The incident culminated with several terrorizing run-by attempts at playing "catch me if you can!" This vicious dog was clearly out for blood that day.

Needless to say, Miss Puppy was not amused and completely traumatized by this horrific incident. We need breed-specific legislation NOW! Think of the Shiba Inus! Er, I mean, children!

Actually, aside from some of the weirdest growling I've ever heard (it sounded like something you'd expect to come out of a tiny Pomeranian), my dog got over the whole thing rather quickly once the pit bull gave up with a whimper and moped away.

Later, I ended up retrieving miss pittie for her owner. Without even needing to "bribe" her with treats, she actually came to me when called (unlike some OTHER dog who I'm STILL working on recall with to this day :rolleyes:), and cowered while giving me the saddest look when I reached down to put a lead on her, as if to say: "I'm so sorry! Am I in trouble? Please don't hurt me!" All she was guilty of was bad manners because she was never trained properly and allowed to run off-leash. I hate irresponsible owners. :(
 
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msinc said:
he kept the dog under his house in the crawl space and wouldn't let it out.
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Not as bad as tying a dog or chaining a dog up. Still you can't have a dog that chases people or other animals off it's own property. Nothing wrong with keeping a dog inside, but chaining a dog is about the worst thing you can do to one.
 
finesse_r said:
Not as bad as tying a dog or chaining a dog up. Still you can't have a dog that chases people or other animals off it's own property. Nothing wrong with keeping a dog inside, but chaining a dog is about the worst thing you can do to one.
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If memory serves correctly, there are actually two seperately introduced bills in the PA legislature tightening state laws regarding outside tethering. They include provisions such as no choke/prong collars, adequate shelter for the dog, no outside tethering in inclement weather conditions, specific times when outside tethering is barred (10 p.m. - 6 a.m.), and so on.

A back yard is no dogsitter, and bored dogs inevitably create their own "fun" activities like digging craters in your lawn, barking at anything that moves, and finding ways to escape.
 
Bat Guano said:
We've come a helluva long way from "a boy and his dog" days. And I don't mean that in a good way.
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Good point.

When I was a kid we lived in San Jose CA. No leash laws back then. My dog Tiger, a 60lb mutt, went everywhere with me. If another dog came along they either got along or they had a fight. Kinda like us kids. It wasn't so bad. Things seemed to work out without all the laws. Just like what I described above, the real issue was havering my dog on a leash dealing with an untethered dog. Back in the day, Tiger woould have messed around with the dog for bit, looked up to see where I was, then ran to catch up. No problem.
 
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