bad news from Europe

[Qball]

No problemo
We got smugglers who drive across the bridge from Denmark
with truckloads of guns from the Balkan wars.
If they get caught, not even jailtime

But should i forget to renew my 5year license, go straight to Jail right.

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

Neville Chamberlain must be very happy in his grave.

 

[Fuch]

from Belgium

Infortunately for me the belgium and the Politicians here do not like the weapons

 

[Fuch]

absolutely agree with you, the EU is incapable of managing Europe from a purely human perspective their decisions are devoid of common sense and only the stupidity and the politically correct inspired it is true that the EU is the worst thing for us

 

[johngalt]

It's a shame that the exact tools that keep people safe from the outsiders that seek to destroy Europe/Scandinavia from the inside are the first things that they ban.

QBall: I have a bad feeling that Sverige is next. Self Defense is not even a consideration in Sweden. My daughter, Ingrid tells me that some would-be evildoers were arrested in Norrland. It's just the start...

The EU has been the worst thing to happen to Europe and Scandinavia since WWII. Nothing good has come from it. There are no more borders between countries throughout Europe and Scandinavia.

My opinion on Europe's open borders (which is the Schengen agreement, and is not the same as the EU) is probably different than a lot of people here.

I'll use the U.S. as a comparison. The land mass of the US is similar to that of Europe. The U.S. is made up of the (supposedly sovereign) individual states. We have open borders for traveling from state to state. Should we put an end to that? Create internal border checks to stop illegals from spreading throughout the U.S.? Or build a wall around California and the Northeast, as I've seen suggested in other threads?

Europe has some extra challenges, it is made up of many different cultures, languages, etc. Countries put different amounts of resources into validating external visitors who can then travel elsewhere once they're in.

But how different is that than here in the U.S.? There is considerably different security at the Mexican border, compared to Montana or North Dakota.

Freedom in general is a good thing.

 

[the ringo kid]

I guess being born and raised in the USA leaves me baffled at times. Here if a majority of people don't like something we work together to get it changed. Sometimes we vote the hard line politicians out of office. Then vote in the people that are thinking the same way our majority is. It usually takes a lot of time to accomplish this and sometimes it don't work at all. If that happens we regroup and go at them again. Is any of this possible where you live?

Eh, not trying to be political but, where have you been for the last 84 months?

 

[Muss Muggins]

Hello all
bad news for us Europeans shooters.
following the attacks in Paris, the European Commission reacts stupid manner wanting to ban semi-automatic rifles including those legally acquired before the attacks, measures purely totally useless policy which will make it even more vulnerable

I can't help you with your issue, but I send my wish that you stay safe, my friend . . .

 

[calmex]

Also, never forget the possiblity of an "infiltration factor". Mexico's political system is and has been thoroughly infiltrated by individuals sympathetic to, or bought off by, or simply directly threatened by the cartels. These individuals will vote absolutely normally and correctly on any pending legislation or question of finance up to the point that it doesn't matter to the cartel one way or the other. When something comes up that could affect the cartel somehow -- as if by surprise -- these individuals suddenly "vote against the grain." And to a degree, it's understandable; often they'll be killed if they don't.

Free society has not, it seems, come up with a solution to this problem. "Vote buying" has always existed, but the capability of a Non-Government Organization to quite literally threaten the votes to fall their way is something nobody seems to want to -- or knows how to -- deal with effectively.

I am sure, with many years of quiet infiltration, that the "system" in Europe (as well as Canada and other places) has been somewhat compromised as well but perhaps not so much by the drug cartels necesarily. Strict firearms laws are something that would work for the "other side". I don't believe that it's all a matter of individual sheep pushing a naive agenda out of sheer blindness. Sometimes, I believe, it's an orchestrated attempt from the "other side" (who could care less about laws) to tie our hands further before they strike.

 

[tputto]

https://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/?fuseaction=feedback&docId=3085376&language=en

A bit of good news, widespread opposition is rising. European shooters and hunters organizations are being informed and there will be a fight for our rights. Also, Finnish government is opposed to the ban and probably will vote against it, mostly because it would stop our reserve army training which is largely carried out voluntarily by reservist organizations. If you want to support the cause, please leave feedback to European Union via the attached link.

 

[patvince]

Hello all
bad news for us Europeans shooters.
following the attacks in Paris, the European Commission reacts stupid manner wanting to ban semi-automatic rifles including those legally acquired before the attacks, measures purely totally useless policy which will make it even more vulnerable

They can always try !!!! I am waiting them !
We don't give a damn care about E.C ....it will stay just a suggestion, that's all..
R.