Bail Bond Agents/Bounty Hunters ?

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Just wondering what everyone's thoughts were concerning these people?
Should they be held to the same standards as LEO'S or should they have Basically no rules i.e. do whatever it takes no holes barred?

My personal opinion is that they should be held to the same standards as LEO'S.

So what does everyone else think?
 
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I'm in the other city Dog the bounty hunter worked in. His crew caused tons of problems. He escaped one instance without picking up a felony menacing charge by the skin of his teeth.
 
Bounty Hunters

To my knowledge, bounty hunters are private citizens and have no legal authority beyond that of a private citizen.
 
I've dealt with them once in a while. They actually have quite broad powers, since the people they are chasing are technically in the custody of the bondsman.

"Taylor v. Taintor. Under Taylor v. Taintor, bounty hunters have (a) the right to seize fugitives without a warrant at any time of the day or night at the fugitive’s home; (b) the right, if necessary, to break and enter the fugitive’s house and to use whatever force is necessary to obtain custody of the defendant. They do not have to “knock and announce” before breaking down doors to search for the principal. Many courts extend this right to third-party residences. Bounty hunters also have (c) the right to “imprison” defendants until bounty hunters complete the final stage of their assignment—surrendering their prisoner to the sheriff of the county in which the fugitive was originally charged and admitted to bail; (d) the right to whisk captured fugitives across state lines back to the jurisdiction from which they fled, without seeking formal extradition or satisfying any procedural safeguards; and (e) the right to recover fugitives without “new process” (a new, separate warrant specifically authorizing them to make interstate seizures or forcible entries, searches, and arrests in the fugitive’s home)." - from the American Bar Association

That said, I don't have much good to say about them. The job seems to attract guys who wanted to be cops but couldn't pass the background.
 
Well the laws on this vary greatly from state to state, so I can only discuss what I know is true in Ky. In Ky a bounty hunter known formally as a fugitive apprehender must obtain a warrant in order to arrest or detain an individual; however, Ky has no commercial bail bonds so this rule only applies to out of state individuals. In Ky, the only people who can arrest or detain someone are peace officers within the state without obtaining a warrant. So at least in Ky they are bound to some of the same laws as LEOs.

Repossession is a different matter and I would assert that they do not have to follow the same laws for confiscating property as they are taking property that no longer legally is owned by you. The property is now owned by some company and this company has given the re-possessor the right to take their property. You can refuse to allow a tow truck or re-possessor onto your property; however, they can charge you a fee for every day they cannot take possession of the vehicle and can obtain a writ of possession which allows them to reclaim the vehicle on your property.

So in short, bounty hunters should be held to the same standards as LEOs regarding allowable activities in pursuit of a suspect; but I do think that this is a job best left to sanctioned officers of the state. Re-possessors should have the right to reclaim their property without a writ at any time, if they do not have to enter your private property to do so. Else they should take legal action.
 
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I agree that they should be held to the same standard as police officers. I'm surprised you don't hear more about them getting their stuff blown away after getting the address wrong and breaking into someone's home.
 
My company had about as many employees as a small town. In bad times we often lost employee`s cars to repossessers
that were parked outside of our gates but on company parking lots. The chief had put out a order to run them off. Once a guy drove up to my gate and told me that he wanted to leave me paperwork and call to call the employee. Now that was a first. I had never heard of that before or since. I told him he was out of luck and wasnt going to let him take a car off our lot. Then he told me I was too late and pointed to a car leaving the lot and that was his partner driving it. I grumbled something and he left. Out of habit I made a mental note of the car he was leaving in. Then I looked at the PW he gave me to run down the employee. I did a double take. The paperwork was for the car he was driving out of sight! I had to appreciate his act though.
 
I don't think a bounty hunter should have any authority to do anything even close to a LEO.
I was watching Dog the bounty hunter one time, and all I could think of was , If he showed up at my house pointing a pepper spray gun that looked like an AR-15 at me, He likely would be looking down the barrel of a real firearm.
I would think that in some cases might be justification to defend yourself.
And, Thats not to mention his fake badge.

Wingmaster
 
Well, there's an *** for every seat. I don't have much sympathy for the trash that jumps bail, and I'm not particularly concerned about their "rights" ( which they generally seem to think they have more of than anyone else).

If there weren't bail jumpers, there wouldn't be a need. If judges didn't set bail, if bad guys didn't do bad stuff, if peace officers weren't busy enough already....there's a lot of ifs and buts.

(When ifs and buts become candy and nuts we'll all have a great big Christmas.)

As far as some TV show, it's about as real as the majority of law enforcement shows on tv, not very real.

But you know, LEO are bound by the responsibility of government, and all the protection from government the Constitution provides for private citizens.
A private citizen isn't ever bound by and held to the same standards as LEO.
 
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Bounty hunters have a place in the system, just like bondsmen. Defendants have a right to bail, and the bondsman has a "right" to protect his business, which is where the bounty hunter comes in. Defendants have all sorts of rights, but there ain't no "right" to not show up for court. There are 7 states that have some sort of laws on it, but the rest are more or less wide open and follow the 1873 Taylor decision by the Supreme Court. I didn't run into too many bounty hunters in 35 years, but the ones I did were never a problem. Didn't meet any wannabe cops or anything. Most were just chasing the big payday. Many were relatives of the bondsman. Heck, even met Dog once at the airport - really nice guy, very polite and friendly.
Really, they're doing the cops a service. The cops arrest somebody, and if the idiot jumps bond, the BH can track them down and re-arrest them, without all the "niceties" that society demands from the cops these days - like putting the jerk in a seat inside the car, instead of in the trunk. :D
 
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Maybe---just MAYBE, PO's should have the same rights as Bounty hunters or MAYBE, it would be good if some departments would hire them to do this work.
Maybe!
Blessings
 
In some states Licensed Bond Agents have more powers that a law enforcement officer. The main difference is the bond agent has the responsibility to produce "the body" of the accused to stand for court.I Missouri they need no search warrant nor do they need the capies to produce the body......They are required to produce the accused upon notification of the court..period. Some states have done away with special process for bond agents and for that matter have no professional bond apparatus. Most still do....working a fugitive detail I usually found Bong Agents helpful as it was in their monetary interest to produce the subject....It must be remembered they are not "law enforcement" In most cases they do provide a necessary function that keeps the jail's somewhat available for more serious cases....If there was no bond program the cost of jails, already out of control, would sky rocket even more than they are now..That ex con with the wild blond bleached hair would not get very far in most jurisdictions...I guess it does make for good TV.....
 
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The question I have is, what kind of person do you expect to go after bail jumping, possibly violent, trash. If the BHs violate someone's rights, the fugitive can take them to civil court.
 
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When you sign for a bond..generally you give your normal rights up...You sign that that you waive your rights over to the professional bond agent..You can be taken by the agent into custody, You can be restricted to your overall movements etc..The bond agent has many more options than a law enforcement officer...The Bondsmen really doesn't care the status of your case nor the probable cause established for you initial arrest...He in fact is responsible for your appearance at a certain time in a certain place..(usually a court date and place) If he fails to produce you he is responsible to the court and may be made to pay the forfeiture right then...Most courts will give the bond agent a reasonable time to produce..Not Always.....Generally state boundaries mean very little to Bond Agents....Occasionally some agents get in trouble boundary bouncing, not often....They technically own the body until released from the bond by the court.
 
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