Robert Lyn
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The assault weapon ban was dropped due to the inability to get even 40 votes of the needed 60 votes. Let's not relax, because the hoplophobes will not quit.
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HereSinceTheLongHunters
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Dems and Lib writers are grumbling like crazy... good sign. The NRA must have a list of pro and con supporters... I'd like to get the names and tally at the end of this. Looks like Magpul made a statement that they're leaving CO too. Hate to see people lose their jobs.. but that's the price and I hope the cost across the revenue board continues to climb.
edwardhartsock
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Don't be fooled by the smoke and mirrors friends! This is exactly what they did in '94 to get the AWB passed. They peeled the AWB out of the Omnibus Crime Bill. It then was passed as a stand alone bill.
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HereSinceTheLongHunters
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Not out of the woods by any means, but its a pleasure to see them off balance and trying to save face.
Buffalohunter60
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Its far from dead folks...this fight has only began.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., will move forward with Senate Democrats' gun control legislation, a move designed to set the Senate up to start working on the controversial legislation when they return from recess on April 8.
The bill will include a proposal for universal background checks, a controversial measure that faces an uphill climb in the Senate.
Democratic leadership aides say Reid is still leaving the door open to replace the language on background checks, as passed this month out of the Senate Judiciary Committee, with a compromise package, should one emerge over the next few weeks.
"I hope negotiations will continue over the upcoming break to reach a bipartisan compromise on background checks, and I am hopeful that they will succeed," Reid said in a statement Thursday. "If a compromise is reached, I am open to including it in the base bill. But I want to be clear: in order to be effective, any bill that passes the Senate must include background checks."
Also included in the bill will be straw purchasing and trafficking provisions, aides say.
The base bill will not include the controversial ban on assault weapons, as decided this week by Senate Majoirty Leader Harry Reid.
But the assault weapons ban will get its vote, Reid promises - as President Obama did, as an amendment to the bill. "Once debate begins, I will ensure that a ban on assault weapons, limits to high-capacity magazines, and mental health provisions receive votes, along with other amendments. In his State of the Union address, President Obama called for all of these provisions to receive votes, and I will ensure that they do," Reid said in a statement.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., will move forward with Senate Democrats' gun control legislation, a move designed to set the Senate up to start working on the controversial legislation when they return from recess on April 8.
The bill will include a proposal for universal background checks, a controversial measure that faces an uphill climb in the Senate.
Democratic leadership aides say Reid is still leaving the door open to replace the language on background checks, as passed this month out of the Senate Judiciary Committee, with a compromise package, should one emerge over the next few weeks.
"I hope negotiations will continue over the upcoming break to reach a bipartisan compromise on background checks, and I am hopeful that they will succeed," Reid said in a statement Thursday. "If a compromise is reached, I am open to including it in the base bill. But I want to be clear: in order to be effective, any bill that passes the Senate must include background checks."
Also included in the bill will be straw purchasing and trafficking provisions, aides say.
The base bill will not include the controversial ban on assault weapons, as decided this week by Senate Majoirty Leader Harry Reid.
But the assault weapons ban will get its vote, Reid promises - as President Obama did, as an amendment to the bill. "Once debate begins, I will ensure that a ban on assault weapons, limits to high-capacity magazines, and mental health provisions receive votes, along with other amendments. In his State of the Union address, President Obama called for all of these provisions to receive votes, and I will ensure that they do," Reid said in a statement.
Pasifikawv
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The proposal to ban Modern Sporting Rifles and factory-standard magazines is NOT dead. It has been removed from the initial legislative package so the overall bill gets to the floor, and then the MSR ban will be voted on as an amendment to be added to the bill.
It looks like the so called "Universal Checks" will be the primary feature of the bill. Let's be clear on what "Universal Checks" may really mean to sportsmen and hunters:
No impact on the criminal black market where crime guns are illegally sold in Balt, DC, Chicago, NY, LA, etc. The gang-bangers, felons, and criminals who are already breaking the existing laws and acquiring guns illegally will continue to do so.
However:
*Loan your long-time buddy a deer rifle to use at your private hunting camp: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you- loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Let your secretary, stalked by an angry ex, borrow a handgun to store at home: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you -loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Leave your guns with your roommate while you take an extended vacation: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you -loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Teach a neighbor to shoot on your private land with your own gun: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you -loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Gift your godson a squirrel gun for his 18th birthday: felony - 5 years in prison for both of you - loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Let your live-in girlfriend of 10 years take your pistol to the range eventho you don't have time to go shooting with her: felony- 5 years in prison for both of you - loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
This proposed legislation has NOTHING to do with public safety, crime, or violence; but everything to do with making criminals out of political enemies by trapping them in confusing laws: criminalizing, disarming, and taking away the right to vote from sportsmen and hunters (who are often politically opposed to gun-grabbers' overall agenda) by legislative fiat.
Consider also: The Fed gets its power to regulate guns via the interstate "commerce clause" and in the '68 and '86 Gun Control Acts, the legitimate transfers between private parties in the same state were specifically excluded since the Feds did not have the power to regulate legitimate, intrastate transactions between private citizens. Any private transfers between residents of different states were/are required to go thru an FFL and include a background check.
What has changed to grant the Fed the authority to regulate a legitimate transaction between two private citizens in the same state? Does the Fed even have the authority to regulate the legitimate commerce between two citizens in the same state?
It looks like the so called "Universal Checks" will be the primary feature of the bill. Let's be clear on what "Universal Checks" may really mean to sportsmen and hunters:
No impact on the criminal black market where crime guns are illegally sold in Balt, DC, Chicago, NY, LA, etc. The gang-bangers, felons, and criminals who are already breaking the existing laws and acquiring guns illegally will continue to do so.
However:
*Loan your long-time buddy a deer rifle to use at your private hunting camp: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you- loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Let your secretary, stalked by an angry ex, borrow a handgun to store at home: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you -loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Leave your guns with your roommate while you take an extended vacation: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you -loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Teach a neighbor to shoot on your private land with your own gun: felony - 5 years in prison for each of you -loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Gift your godson a squirrel gun for his 18th birthday: felony - 5 years in prison for both of you - loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
*Let your live-in girlfriend of 10 years take your pistol to the range eventho you don't have time to go shooting with her: felony- 5 years in prison for both of you - loose your right to own guns and your right to vote.
This proposed legislation has NOTHING to do with public safety, crime, or violence; but everything to do with making criminals out of political enemies by trapping them in confusing laws: criminalizing, disarming, and taking away the right to vote from sportsmen and hunters (who are often politically opposed to gun-grabbers' overall agenda) by legislative fiat.
Consider also: The Fed gets its power to regulate guns via the interstate "commerce clause" and in the '68 and '86 Gun Control Acts, the legitimate transfers between private parties in the same state were specifically excluded since the Feds did not have the power to regulate legitimate, intrastate transactions between private citizens. Any private transfers between residents of different states were/are required to go thru an FFL and include a background check.
What has changed to grant the Fed the authority to regulate a legitimate transaction between two private citizens in the same state? Does the Fed even have the authority to regulate the legitimate commerce between two citizens in the same state?
Buffalohunter60
US Veteran
We can not give them one inch....or they will constantly erode all of our rights, we need to fight these universal background checks with all we have.
HereSinceTheLongHunters
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The LIB writers are gnashing their teeth angrily today... I think it frustrates the daylights out of them that not one shot has been fired n anger by the millions of gun owners... which only proves that we abide by and uphold the law... the really sick thing is that they would welcome more dead children to get their way... Good thing "our " people are protecting the schools now, as it should be.
tacman605
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