I have used a Universal Clipdraw on a Kahr and have used J frame Hip Grips too. On the Kahr, it was very concealable and not uncomfortable, but I became very concerned about the nads with a semi in my pants with no manual safety. I like to have the Kahr's trigger covered when carrying. The Hip Grip is a great concept and can be used with a lot of holsters if necessary, but I cracked a Hip Grip right across the grip at the screw and am therefore concerned about them as well. I feel that their quality is not the greatest, although the price is right. Like most things in life, both of these choices are compromises. I'm using holsters now.