Be Prepared 7.15.2014

I agree that .45 is a better self defense round, but that isn't what you were talking about. You said that in the snow belt a round had to penetrate more clothing. If that's the criteria, the 9mm is better at doing that.
 
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If it is a CT grip activated laser for the Bodyguard I will be happy. My wife is wanting a bodyguard but the laser on them now is useless and almost impossible to activate.
 
9mm vs. 45 ACP, Why I chose to carry the 9mm - YouTube

Listen to the instructors explanation. He's shooting a non moving target and no adrenalin rush!

First, don't take what I say as being negative towards your post or any comment you've made. ;)

I've seen that video before and it shows one person's ability with a 45. What the instructor says reveals he would be inadequate with a 45 as well. That target is also very, very close.

I've shot quickly that close before and I usually get one small ragged hole no matter what caliber I'm shooting. I'm not boasting my ability or falsifying it in any way, but if you can't get a very tight group, shooting rapidly from a few feet away , it may be time for some more practice or to re-evaluate your shooting fundamentals. If someone doesn't improve with practice, then that caliber is obviously to much for them. If there is plenty of practice and the recoil is manageable, then it's a gun or ammo issue, but it shouldn't be an excuse for not practicing or getting used to a gun.

I start my targets out at 12-15 yards minimum since my closest range doesn't allow them to be any closer and I can shoot quick and accurate with all of my 45s, so I'm not sure if this video proves anything really.
 
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I agree that .45 is a better self defense round, but that isn't what you were talking about. You said that in the snow belt a round had to penetrate more clothing. If that's the criteria, the 9mm is better at doing that.

The issue for me is clothing which can clog a hollowpoint. I prefer mass over speed in that case. Both are good, I just prefer the 45.
 
Polymer guns are all soulless and stupid looking just like Mossberg shotguns. I do well with both. Don't ask me to choose them over my Sig or Benelli, but when the going gets tough and dirty and sweaty they kill deer and keep the boogie man at bay in an easy to clean, tough, and reliable package. If they made an M&P in 10mm I'd carry that and sell a lot of the other stuff.
 
Just looked at the rolling marquee on their website - "The Lights Go On Tomorrow" with a little red dot.... Guessing it isn't a new caliber Shield....

I'll continue to wait a little longer...
 
First, don't take what I say as being negative towards your post or any comment you've made. ;)

I've seen that video before and it shows one person's ability with a 45. What the instructor says reveals he would be inadequate with a 45 as well. That target is also very, very close.

I've shot quickly that close before and I usually get one small ragged hole no matter what caliber I'm shooting. I'm not boasting my ability or falsifying it in any way, but if you can't get a very tight group, shooting rapidly from a few feet away , it may be time for some more practice or to re-evaluate your shooting fundamentals. If someone doesn't improve with practice, then that caliber is obviously to much for them. If there is plenty of practice and the recoil is manageable, then it's a gun or ammo issue, but it shouldn't be an excuse for not practicing or getting used to a gun.

I start my targets out at 12-15 yards minimum since my closest range doesn't allow them to be any closer and I can shoot quick and accurate with all of my 45s, so I'm not sure if this video proves anything really.

I've been shooting since the army taught me 46 years ago. Some of what you say is valid. I shoot me carry shield just about once a week, that is the gun I want to be most familiar with and proficient. The factor that is overlooked is adrenalin! You may shoot one ragged hole at the range but when the target has a gun big difference. Just my opinion I respect yours.
 
I've been shooting since the army taught me 46 years ago. Some of what you say is valid. I shoot me carry shield just about once a week, that is the gun I want to be most familiar with and proficient. The factor that is overlooked is adrenalin! You may shoot one ragged hole at the range but when the target has a gun big difference. Just my opinion I respect yours.

I totally understand the adrenaline that would be present during an actual self defense scenario, but holding a tight group with any caliber at that point would prove difficult. This is why it's important to practice with a carry gun as often as possible.
 
What else can you expect from a company that has a HUGE, pent up demand for products, (revolvers like they used to make), But refuses to make what their customers want to buy. I used to own a couple thousand shares of S&W stock, but sold it when I realized the company's management is too stupid to just make what people want to buy!
 
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