Beakert value?

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Saw one today in my LGS for 7 bills, which seemed reasonable. No box of course, but an honest 90% gun. Everything looked right on it. Front of the grip frame was browned, a couple handling marks, other than the grip frame no bluing loss. Any thoughts? I don't know much about the early hand ejectors.
 
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If you have the serial number then that could make a difference in value. With that the experts here can tell you if it was in the original shipment or later, and that can make a difference.
 
The original Bekeart models are highly sought after, and categorized in four levels of collectibility and value. All others are .22/32 Heavy Frame Targets. If that’s what you were looking at, $700 is a decent price. It was truly a Bekeart, it’s a steal.

Unfortunately, many under informed sellers tend to lump all .22/32 HFTs with the true 'Bekeart’ Models, but they do not all share the same rarity/collectability, and each of the four recognized Bekeart classes vary substantially in value even in like condition.

The four basic classifications of the “.22/32 Bekeart Model 1911” in order of their collectability and value are summarized below from the SCS&W, 3rd edition and other sources:

In April 25, 1911 an order for the 1st production run of 1050 serial #s, of the Model 1911 Bekeart models began in the serial range of # 138226 thru # 139275, completed on July 10, 1911. Only 1044 revolvers were actually completed/shipped and their grips were #’d 1 - 1044. The 1st 3000 guns were numbered 1 to 3000 on the butt of the left stock in the order that they were assembled.

1st classification, the "True" Bekearts, the “Model 1911 22/32 Bekeart HFTs” are the 294 (lately revised from 292 by Roy Jinks) from that original production run on the known serial number list within the above serial range that were actually shipped to Bekeart.

2nd class of Bekearts are the remainder of the guns in that 1044 production run and serial range that went to other dealers.

3rd class of Bekearts is the remainder with grip number order of assembly from #1045 to #3000, shipped to Bekeart or not, after which grip #s were discontinued, but there is no official factory 'list' of serial numbers for this class, albeit there are accumulated partial lists from lettered guns; the grip number and with grip serial number matching the gun, being sufficient to identify them along with a factory letter.

4th and last class, although least valuable or desirable, is any “22/32 Heavy Frame Target” from after the 1st production run that 'letters' as being shipped to Bekeart Sporting goods in S.F., since there is no official serial number list for this class.

Phil Bekeart, a San Francisco gun dealer, is credited with the concept of a larger (than the existing 7 shot .22 Long ‘M’ frame) .22 LR target revolver built on the I frame 1st called the “Model 1911 Bekeart Model, 22/32 HFT”. He agreed to order 1000 of the new model if S&W would produce it. When Smith added this model to regular production c.1915 it was given the model name of “22/32 Heavy Frame Target”, because relative to the tiny M frame Ladysmith, the only other Smith .22 at the time, it was a heavier frame. Changed to “22/32 Target” in ~ 1930 when the K22, a heavier, K frame .22 was introduced.
 
The serial number on this one is in the 400,000 range so I'm guessing it would be a heavy frame target then?

I'll try to get some pics tomorrow....if it's still there!
 
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22/32

FYI my SN 496748 was shipped March 15, 1929. Invoiced at $19.68.
 
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I show these four near yours:

399275 - shipped on 7/24/24, HFT
399317 – Dec. 18, 1924, HFT
408864 - June 1925, HFT
409017 - shipped on May 26, 1925, HFT

All of these have Patridge front sight and sq notch rear as would all of those later.

Original Bekearts had Paine bead fronts and U notch rear.

After the introduction of the K22 in ~1931, a much heavier frame, the HFT became the .22/32 Target.
 
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The serial number on this one is in the 400,000 range so I'm guessing it would be a heavy frame target then?

Yup - Roy calls them 22/32 Heavy Frame Target revolvers, whether shipped to Bekeart or not. Bekeart nickname is improperly used for the majority of 22/32 HFTs out there, and as you can gather from Jim's post, there are not many true Bekeart HFTs out there.
 
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I show these four near yours:

399275 - shipped on 7/24/24, HFT
399317 – Dec. 18, 1924, HFT
408864 - June 1925, HFT
409017 - shipped on May 26, 1925, HFT

All of these have Patridge front sight and sq notch rear as would all of those later.

Original Bekearts had Paine bead fronts and U notch rear.

Jim
My .22/32 HFT is serial number 425650. I have not requested a letter yet, but Roy told me it shipped in October, 1925. It has a Sheard type front sight, made by Marbles (I have no idea if that is original or not).

You can add that to your list, if you wish.
 
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Jack - the company would put any sight you wanted on the gun for a small fee. I think what Jim stated is the standard sight for the gun. There is a page in several catalogs of the era that show the Marble's front target sight for target guns. I saw a price list somewhere and I think these sights are less than $1.00 extra.
 

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Thanks Gary!
I suspected as much, but I didn't know for sure if the Marbles sight could be original. It does look right. :)

When I bought mine, the guy had another HFT about 75,000 lower in the serial number sequence. It had a Patridge front sight.
 
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• Aug.29, 1923 change order, .22/32 HFT stocks replaced the sq butt RP convex top stocks returning to 2 screw target stocks but with convex tops, and w/o medallions as standard. And from the original Paine bead* front sight w/U-Notch to a Patridge w/square notch rear. The next day, the same was ordered for the 32 & 38 Target Models and the Single Shot Model as well, S&W 1857-1945 N&J pg. 235.

* is a style designed by "Chevalier" Ira Paine, a renowned pistol shooter of the 1880s era.
 
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Jim
Very interesting point. The HFT I recently acquired (Oct. '25) is wearing black hard rubber, two screw, extension stocks. No visible serial number on them. But I believe them to be original. Should I have reason to doubt that?
 
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Jack,

I'll almost never say never about anything S&W. So please allow me some speculative reasoning:

Although I have not observed the black targets used on HFTs, they would be a downgrade from walnut stocks, they could have been ordered with the gun. Special order grips usually have no serial # because the gun is special handled at some point in assembly. But if special ordered, they'd likely be mentioned in the letter.

I can say it was awful late for the use of Gutta Percha Sap target stocks, however on the other hand the black rd butt grips were used all the way up to WW II.


One thing could be relevant or not apply here:

1. Your round butt grip frame does not likely have the rebated back strap because 1925 is a bit long for the transition period to standard rd butt grip frame used with the target stocks.

2. But if it is rebated, it will also have a sq toe due to the May 8, 1920 change order, which called for the grip frame front toe to be left sq for easier grip fitting of the stocks:

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3. Notice here the front toe of the grip frame is rounded and the black targets were all rounded to match:

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4. Therefore the black grips would need slight modification to fit the sq toe, and if not factory done, that modification, if made later might look a bit crudely done.

Please let us know what you find.
 
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Thank you Jim!
Here are some photos. Sorry they aren't better, but daylight up here is scarce this time of year and it is cold out there. These were taken in the shop under florescent lights. Maybe I'll take some better pictures in the summertime. :rolleyes:

The toe is rounded, as are the stocks.
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