Beater Hand Ejector

[petewoodland]

Today I was reading the thread of members first five screw revolver. Try as I might I was unable to post a reply. Also there was so much nice hardware I felt this might detract from the thread. Last month I was in my LGS admiring a very nice HE in Nickel with imitation ivory grips for around $650
As I was reaching for my CC to put a deposit Brian, the owner of the shop, hollered "find a place for this beater." As it passed by I saw the price, $150. Just about what I was going to leave for a deposit. Plans changed immediately and the beater came home with me. It was missing the barrel pin which was easily corrected and a little touch up blue helped hide 110 years of use. Some one had added a Marbles front sight but my ancient eyes still can't see it. All this gun will see are light loads and it does a very good job with them

 

[weatherby]

I like it.
Curious on the dating though.
How did you determine it was 110 years old?
I was thinking that style ejector rod was post 1937 ish. Was the barrel changed perhaps ?

 

[Babysitr]

Looks like a "fun gun" to me..I would have done it in a second

 

[Hondo44]

Good buy for a good shooter!

If the backside of the right grip matches the gun's serial # they are original and date the gun between 1910 and 1920.

The missing MADE IN U.S.A. on right front frame dates it before ~early 1923.

So the barrel has been changed to a post war vintage. If the barrel serial # matches the gun, it was back to the factory for the replacement.

Is there a star behind the serial # on the butt and/or a date on the left side front toe of grip frame?

 

[BC38]

NICE, a shooter 5" M&P for $150. Pretty hard to beat that deal!

 

[Absalom]

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So the barrel has been changed to a post war vintage. If the barrel serial # matches the gun, it was back to the factory for the replacement.
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Unfortunately all three photos keep the critical spot in the shadows, but the barrel appears to have an ejector rod cut that does not match the post-1947 rod tip. Also, the caliber on the left of the barrel makes the barrel pre-war, I would think.

So the rod and/or cylinder may have been changed at some point.

A photo of the butt serial would be helpful.

 

[Hondo44]

Unfortunately all three photos keep the critical spot in the shadows, but the barrel appears to have an ejector rod cut that does not match the post-1947 rod tip. Also, the caliber on the left of the barrel makes the barrel pre-war, I would think.

So the rod and/or cylinder may have been changed at some point.

A photo of the butt serial would be helpful.

Very true. That's another possibility, if the barrel is notched, could be a post 1961 replaced cyl/ext rod with left hand threads.

Usually though it's a barrel change with un-notched post war barrel before 1961 and the rod was replaced with a knurled tip right hand threaded rod to fit the pre war right hand threaded cyl/ext star.

As you posted more info would be helpful.

 

[Eddietruett]

I would call that a beautiful shooter, not a beater.

 

[petewoodland]

I had no idea there would be so many responses. I will try to do a little better photography and include some more information. I based the date on the serial number. Pre 1909. Thanks for your time and interest.

 

[Eddie Southgate]

A bargain ! I would have been happy with that to at least another hundred .

 

[petewoodland]

Sorry about my poor photography but I can fill in a few blanks. The serial number is 1374XX which dates it to somewhere shortly before 1909.
The SN is the same on the barrel, cylinder, and inside of extractor. There is no star to indicate factory rework. Also there is no numbering on either grip but the condition probably means they are original.
It was obviously re blued with a rather poor polishing job and both the trigger and hammer are blued as well
The good news is that it is mechanically sound with a good lock up and very nice double and single action trigger pull. Accuracy is better than I am capable of. My wife likes old things so this will be one of her shooters. I've bought a pair of "ivory" grips but she'll make the decision as to whether the walnut ones stay or not.

 

[Absalom]

..... The serial number is 1374XX which dates it to somewhere shortly before 1909.
The SN is the same on the barrel, cylinder, and inside of extractor. There is no star to indicate factory rework....

So with barrel and cylinder matching the frame serial, somehow it just ended up with an ejector rod with a later-type tip. Does the barrel‘s underside have a two-step cut for the tip? That‘s what this vintage would have originally had.

 

[petewoodland]

Yes the barrel has a two step cut so apparently some one replaced the extractor rod with a "new" one. I have no idea if an original could be obtained. While not truly original it is functional and probably one reason I got it so inexpensively. As I mentioned the poor re blue job makes little sense of spending much on this.