loubif
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I am new to handguns and have only bought range rounds for practicing my shooting technique with my M&P 40c but not sure what to get for S/D and or H/D, hollow point, frangible IDK??? What are you using and or like to use? Thanks
Best SD/HD round for my 40c
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180gr Speer gold dot.
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Forgot to add I have the short barrel version of the gold dots too.
I also use Speer Gold Dots.
Some say to use what your local PD uses. If it ever came up, if I was ever being examined after a shooting, personally I'd rather be using what the law enforcement community uses for protection than something called Zombie Killers.
Your mileage may vary.
Some say to use what your local PD uses. If it ever came up, if I was ever being examined after a shooting, personally I'd rather be using what the law enforcement community uses for protection than something called Zombie Killers.
Your mileage may vary.
tenntucker
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I'm shooting up all of my once favorite self defense ammo and going to a barnes all copper bullet.
I use this bullet in my handloads but it is available in a factory loaded round. It's Corbon DPX.
Copper bullets are pretty impressive, especially when hitting bone.
I use this bullet in my handloads but it is available in a factory loaded round. It's Corbon DPX.
Copper bullets are pretty impressive, especially when hitting bone.
What are the differences/benefits/drawbacks between hollow points, frangible, hydro shoks and the above mentioned copper bullets and where do the speer gold dots fit in as I have seen it recomended many times in my current research. Thanks again and sorry for such a noob question...
Rastoff
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Copper plated or jacketed, 185grain bullets. This is common and inexpensive. You'll be able to use the same bullet for practice and actual self defense.
Hollow point bullets are designed to expand as they hit the bad guy. This helps them transfer more energy to the target and not over penetrate. This is a good thing for self defense. They may or may not expand.
A frangible bullet is designed to break into thousands of tiny pieces as it hits the target. The main idea is to prevent over penetration. They will potentially do more damage because they spread the energy out as they break up. If they work, they are a great self defense round. They are crazy expensive.
The problem with over penetration is you don't want to shoot the innocent that is behind your target. I don't think this is a big concern with a .40S&W. It is not a high penetration round.
Personally, I place more value on shot placement than bullet expansion. I use regular ball ammo. The idea is that if you put two into the right place, it will stop any bad guy no matter the caliber.
Hollow point bullets are designed to expand as they hit the bad guy. This helps them transfer more energy to the target and not over penetrate. This is a good thing for self defense. They may or may not expand.
A frangible bullet is designed to break into thousands of tiny pieces as it hits the target. The main idea is to prevent over penetration. They will potentially do more damage because they spread the energy out as they break up. If they work, they are a great self defense round. They are crazy expensive.
The problem with over penetration is you don't want to shoot the innocent that is behind your target. I don't think this is a big concern with a .40S&W. It is not a high penetration round.
Personally, I place more value on shot placement than bullet expansion. I use regular ball ammo. The idea is that if you put two into the right place, it will stop any bad guy no matter the caliber.
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180 grain Federal HST by far for warmer weather. Test results are everywhere. If you can't find them, 180 grain Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel. 180 grain bonded Winchester Ranger T for cold weather.
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Either Federal 155 grain Hydra Shok or Winchester 180 grain PDX1. Do not get the Federal 165 grain Hydra Shok. It is anemic and is designed to equal the 147 grain 38 Special that was popular with the FBI before they switched to Glocks.
tenntucker
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I was alluding to all copper, not copper plated like Berry's. Quite a bit difference in the price.
Barnes TAC-XP Bullets 40 S&W 10mm Auto (400 Diameter) 155 Grain Hollow
mistahd
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Winchester 180 grain PDX1 or Hornady Critical Defense 165 grain FTX is what I use in my Shield 40.
Try out multiple brands. Find out what you and your gun are most comfortable with (feel, groupings, etc) and get a couple hundred rounds (if possible) and practice, practice, practice with it to make certain you know how it is going to work for you if the need ever arises.
Try out multiple brands. Find out what you and your gun are most comfortable with (feel, groupings, etc) and get a couple hundred rounds (if possible) and practice, practice, practice with it to make certain you know how it is going to work for you if the need ever arises.
Rastoff
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My post was directed at the OP. I wasn't making any comment on your post. I hope it didn't read that way.
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