Bicycle CCW?

I'm torn on bicycle carry. I usually ride with other people or my local club. There is always the chance of an accident with a car or another bike, so I don't carry when I ride. I don't want to get knocked unconscious or ride off in the meat wagon with an unsecured firearm not knowing who may end up with it. If I were going on an LSD ride (long slow distance) or on tour, I would carry, probably in a fanny pack, and I would pack my Keltec.
 
I just bought a 360pd to have something super light for runs and bike rides (mainly mountain biking). For bike rides, I will have the gun attached to the bike, because on more than one occasion, I've gone over the front of my handlebars during a crash--wouldn't want a gun attached to me at that time. (I do wonder if the .357 will be enough to stop my most likely attacker which would be a mountain lion or black bear.)
 
Originally posted by josp:
When I do my long road rides, I do wear the spandex gear. I carry my airweight J frame in my camelback pack. Not terribly fast draw, but I'm not going lose it if I'm seperated from my bike. I don't believe I want to try to fire as I'm riding..... a two wheeled bandito of sorts.

Camelback now sells a pack that has both a water bladder and a holster compartment...it's called the Goblin. My wife and I each have one for biking and hiking. It doesn't remotely look like a typical gun fanny pack (medium bright blue). The only thing is that she's tiny and I only have a 31" waist so we had to modify the straps to fit us...just a little scissor and thread job.
 
Bart,
If I may be so bold?
Order the sour cream on you baked potato next time. Sounds like you and the Lady can afford the splurge?
Oh, and take the car to the steak house, that has the baked potato...
 
Originally posted by NVBob:
I just bought a 360pd to have something super light for runs and bike rides (mainly mountain biking). For bike rides, I will have the gun attached to the bike, because on more than one occasion, I've gone over the front of my handlebars during a crash--wouldn't want a gun attached to me at that time. (I do wonder if the .357 will be enough to stop my most likely attacker which would be a mountain lion or black bear.)

That makes a certain amount of sense. I carry in a fanny pack on one hip or the other and have crashed the bike, both on the road and off-roading, where the pack took a 'hit' and can't think of many scenarios where an accidental discharge could occur. Of course, it's not great for the gun to get ground into the asphalt at 20mph although the pack does offer some protection and mine hasn't suffered any serious harm.

I thought about mounting the gun to the bike for this very reason, but ultimately rejected it because of concern about being separated from the gun (and the bike as well). Plus, what about when you stop at a convenience store to get a snack, or a coffee shop? Maybe you don't ever do those things, but I do quite regularly while riding and want the gun with me, not attached to the bike 20 yards away.
 
Originally posted by NVBob:
I just bought a 360pd......I do wonder if the .357 will be enough to stop my most likely attacker which would be a mountain lion or black bear.)

A 357, accurately placed, will stop either a mountain-lion or black bear. The "accurately placed" is the tricky part. I gather that you may be a fairly new shooter. Lots of gear issues to be sure, choice of ammo, etc., all addressed somewhat at length elsewhere in this forum, but you will want to do some bit of practicing with the 360pd because you are likely to find that accurate shooting with such a gun using full-charge 357 loads isn't something that comes naturally nor automatically to most of us.....

Have fun and good luck!!
 
Originally posted by MTKTM:
you are likely to find that accurate shooting with such a gun using full-charge 357 loads isn't something that comes naturally nor automatically to most of us.....

Yes it is a handful to say the least, and I do need more practice. But it is so small and light, which makes me more likely to carry it on a bike ride--even if I end up using +P's thats better than the "nothing" that I've been carrying. Also bought an XD.45 but I don't see myself carrying that on a bike ride and definitely not on a run.
Thanks for the advice.
 
Originally posted by MTKTM:
Lots of gear issues to be sure, choice of ammo, etc., all addressed somewhat at length elsewhere in this forum, but you will want to do some bit of practicing with the 360pd because you are likely to find that accurate shooting with such a gun using full-charge 357 loads isn't something that comes naturally nor automatically to most of us.....
Or ever.

If I were loading a 360 for defense against black bears or cougars, I would load a hardcast wadcutter at medium power .357 velocities, since overpenetration wouldn't be a concern. Buffalo Bore's .38 spl. 150 gr. hardcast wadcutter load would be a good, easy to shoot alternative if you don't handload.
 
Originally posted by flop-shank:
Originally posted by MTKTM:
Lots of gear issues to be sure, choice of ammo, etc., all addressed somewhat at length elsewhere in this forum, but you will want to do some bit of practicing with the 360pd because you are likely to find that accurate shooting with such a gun using full-charge 357 loads isn't something that comes naturally nor automatically to most of us.....
Or ever.

If I were loading a 360 for defense against black bears or cougars, I would load a hardcast wadcutter at medium power .357 velocities, since overpenetration wouldn't be a concern. Buffalo Bore's .38 spl. 150 gr. hardcast wadcutter load would be a good, easy to shoot alternative if you don't handload.

Good call. I like Buffalo Bore stuff, just bought some 500 S&Ws to try. Actually, that's the gun I'd want to have with me if I came face-to-face with a bear.....but it's a bit of a load to carry on a bicycle! It weighs almost as much as some of the bikes they are making these days!
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Originally posted by G-ManBart:
Originally posted by josp:
When I do my long road rides, I do wear the spandex gear. I carry my airweight J frame in my camelback pack. Not terribly fast draw, but I'm not going lose it if I'm seperated from my bike. I don't believe I want to try to fire as I'm riding..... a two wheeled bandito of sorts.

Camelback now sells a pack that has both a water bladder and a holster compartment...it's called the Goblin. My wife and I each have one for biking and hiking. It doesn't remotely look like a typical gun fanny pack (medium bright blue). The only thing is that she's tiny and I only have a 31" waist so we had to modify the straps to fit us...just a little scissor and thread job.

I saw that Goblin pack on their website. That's exactly what I need. Did you order from the site ($59.90) or a local dealer?
 
It may sound funny, But when I bike with my dog, she wears a shock collar and I carry the remote on a lanyard around my neck under my shirt, It think it weighs about the same as my Keltec or 340sc,,, Now the SC has a lanyard pin,,, I am thinking that it may work for you.
Peter.
 
I bike a lot. Last summer I started using a SafePacker mounted on the handlebars of both my road bike and my mountain bike. I generally use the small SafePacker and a Ruger LCP .380 on the road (used that set-up on an 80-miler in the mountains last July).

On mt bike rides when we're pretty far in the backcountry, I use a larger SafePacker and my usual carry gun, a Para Carry 9.

When I get off the bike, I unclip the SafePacker and carry it with me. After riding, when I throw on a pair of pants to grab some lunch/dinner and use the SafePacker as a strong-side holster.

Michael B
 
I just started riding again after 6 months of laziness. I ride a road bike 25-35 miles 3X a week and carry my M&P 340 in a belly band. This is under my shirt. And yes, I wear Lycra bib shorts and a racing shirt. No one has a clue.
 
Wait until the first few hundred times that J frame bounces off your sternum, while grunting on those cranks? The bruising will give you plenty of time to consider alternatives!
 
I don't know about you guys, but I tend to get pretty sweaty when I ride, and that is part of the reason I don't want the gun directly on my body. Even though I use either a stainless steel or a Scandium/titanium model when I ride, they have some non-stainless internal parts, trigger, etc., which are subject to rust in a damp, salty environment. Even when I carry the gun in the fanny pack, I'll notice that the pack picks up some dampness after a long ride in hot weather. I plan to treat it with a good dose of Scotchguard before next season rolls around.
 
I bike a lot and carry differently depending on what I am doing. On weekend long rides in full spandex gear, a Colt Agent rides in a fanny pack.
When running errands around town on my commuter bike or rain bike, I wear cargo shorts over biking shorts and sometimes leggings if it is cold. In warm weather I will have a wicking shirt with a large tshirt over it. In cold weather, a rubber jacket goes over the shirts. In either scenario, I just carry a 3-inch 1911 or a 3-inch M66 IWB strong side. My major concern is attacking dogs so I want a quick draw.
 
Thought I'd bump this thread, it's been dormant for a year and now that it's mid-winter I figured it'd be fun to contemplate two of my favorite hobbies, bicycling and shooting. This past summer I competed in a biathlon that featured rifle-shooting (.22) and bicycling, that was fun......not a real practical exercise, but fun. Mostly, however, I do still like to carry while riding. On most rides I've retained the fanny-pack methodology, usually carried on my right (strong) side for easy access and so that it doesn't interfere with riding postures. My primary 'everyday' bicycle carry-gun is a 327PC, but occasionally if I'm really trying to pare weight I'll go with a 340PD, which is my standard/daily carry-gun. On a few occasions where I thought I might have to deal with a particular ornery pitt-bull, I've carried a BondArms Snakeslayer loaded with 410, sometimes #6, other times 00Buck, with some 45Colt rounds carried in the pack for backup. I pull the guns and clean them thoroughly every couple of days. No issues with rust after three seasons of carry on the bike.

Does anyone else have any experiences to share regarding carry on a bicycle during the '09 season, and suggestions for '10??
 
Paris became somewhat of a giant traffic jam within the last fex years.
That is why, most of the time I ride either my motorbike or my bicycle.
A major concern about carrying while riding is to avoid extra injury caused by the gun in the case of a fall or accident.
We shall avoid, for exemple, the small of the back holsters!
 
Paris became somewhat of a giant traffic jam within the last fex years.
That is why, most of the time I ride either my motorbike or my bicycle.
A major concern about carrying while riding is to avoid extra injury caused by the gun in the case of a fall or accident.
We shall avoid, for exemple, the small of the back holsters!

I've done a lot of motorcycling in the past as well, still ride sometimes but not as much as before. Because of the speeds involved, I think that the issue you describe is more of an issue on a motorcycle than a bicycle, although it's just a matter of degree. A handgun on the person can become embedded in one's tender body if there is a high-speed crash and a guy lands just so. Not likely, but not out-of-the-question either. I've crashed with a gun on a bicycle.....just once.....and actually landed on my right side on the fannypack containing the gun. No harm done, although the pack was tattered a little bit. I was probably traveling roughly 15-16mph at the time, and the fall was on asphalt. I don't know if this is really much of an issue as a practical matter. An SOB holster might not be a bad way to go as I've had crashes and can't recall ever landing flat on my back, seem to go down on my side most of the time, or do a header over the bars. One reason I'd be inclined against SOB carry is that I'm not sure how well concealed the gun would be back there. Theoretically, I suppose CCW in a car depending on the nature of an accident, or a fall while hiking or walking, skiing, sledding, snowmobiling, 4-wheeling, or any activity or sport involving speed, even moderate speed, creates a certain potential for injury caused by the gun.
 
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