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WaterburyBob
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I'm sure it's possible, but every revolver I've ever seen go kaboom was due to a handload - not factory ammo.
Much less embarrassing to say it was factory ammo rather than a mistake made in reloading.
Much less embarrassing to say it was factory ammo rather than a mistake made in reloading.
Andy Griffith
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That might perhaps have left a mark...
Alk8944
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Bullshit!!!!
500 Magnum Nut
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Sure, I believe it. He just scooped a cartridge full of powder and capped the bullet.
If that indeed happened, why would the original owner not contact S&W and/or the ammo company and have them replace/buy him a new gun?
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Count me in on the bullshit camp regarding factory ammo and kaboom.
Factory ammo kaboom:
Possible? Yes, anything is.
Probable? No, not likely.
Factory ammo kaboom:
Possible? Yes, anything is.
Probable? No, not likely.
I have seen the remnants of a Ruger P85, fired by a sheriff's deputy with issue ammo (S&B) that was damaged beyond repair. S&B replaced the firearm and donated a case of ammo. I am not sure that I would want to shoot it in any firearm.
I have also seen the remains of an 1100 Remington, 3" magnum destroyed by 3" Federal Turkey loads. Federal settled the suit and paid medical bills as well.
So, before you rush to a decision, be advised that factory ammo is not immune from flaws.
We also don't know if the revolver pictured was being fired in "slow" fire mode or rapid fire. A squib load may have cause the problem, but since the barrel is still intact, its doubtful.
I have also seen the remains of an 1100 Remington, 3" magnum destroyed by 3" Federal Turkey loads. Federal settled the suit and paid medical bills as well.
So, before you rush to a decision, be advised that factory ammo is not immune from flaws.
We also don't know if the revolver pictured was being fired in "slow" fire mode or rapid fire. A squib load may have cause the problem, but since the barrel is still intact, its doubtful.
Wow. Was he hurt?
There were some recalls over the years, what's the model and serial number?
Scroll down to the post by JT.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/530103904/m/875107028/p/2
There were some recalls over the years, what's the model and serial number?
Scroll down to the post by JT.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/530103904/m/875107028/p/2
Cruiser RN
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Before everyone says bullshit,my model 640 blew up using 158 grain 38 special Fiocchi factory ammo in my j frame 357 magnum.A 357 round was never put thru this gun,it was sent to Smith x2 for factory tune ups and once for a sub par trigger job.Smith took possesion of it,destroyed it after verifying it was way beyond repair,and sent me a new model 640 with the nasty lock and full of metal shavings,so much for thier quality control,here is the file of the pics I took afterwards.I am proof it does happen.......God Bless....Mike http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/563662181JzjRUP
+1 Rarely will anyone admit to blowing up a gun. I did, some 20 years ago, with handloads.
norfdet
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Gatman44, Do you know which brand of ammo was involved?
If the damage was done by the ammunition S&W wouldn't be responsible for the damage, the ammo maker would. Even if the ammo maker paid for a new gun doesn't mean they would take this one, the owner might have gotten a replacement. Also, just because it's factory ammo doesn't mean it's guaranteed.
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Fiocchi loads HOT....very hot. That company is an exception to the rule of factory loads being loaded below spec.
But my BS meter is way high on the factory load assertion...
David Sinko
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I have made my share of bad handloaded ammo, but the only round that ever blew up in any of my guns was a Remington .22 LR Thunderbolt. And I did NOT reload a .22 rimfire!
I can not understand why anybody would think that all factory loaded ammo is beyond reproach.
Dave Sinko
I can not understand why anybody would think that all factory loaded ammo is beyond reproach.
Dave Sinko
I've had Remington 303 British ammo split cases and spit gas out the gas vent, but Remington took care of it nicely and quickly.
In my collection, I've also got a 308 Winchester Federal factory 150-grain Barnes TSX load with the primer in backwards.
Okie John
In my collection, I've also got a 308 Winchester Federal factory 150-grain Barnes TSX load with the primer in backwards.
Okie John
norfdet
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In this months issue of American Handgunner there is an article dealing specifically with this sort of thing. The writer stated seveal times in the article that he has NEVER seen a gun blow up from factory loaded ammo; the instances he has seen over the years were ALWAYS with handloaded ammo.
claygrazer
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WOW!!! Looks like MIM parts to me.
The only Bullshit here is coming from the idiots that think the ammo companies are perfect. I have seen a lot of ammo recalls in the gun magazines over the years but never heard of the outcome. Did any one use that defective ammo and was any one injured, who knows. I have also seen a lot of recalls on guns too. If you think it is Bullshit you are full of bullshit your your self.
Original owner?? If not, maybe a prior owner weakened it and started it on it's way to the blow up by using some overloaded handloads before selling it?
I know of one individual that bought a used M27 and had the thing let loose with off the shelf Federal 240 gr JHP, and although he could not prove it, my gunsmith suspected that may have been the case, as the owner experiencing the blow up was a well known customer that did not reload and only used off the shelf stuff.
"Factory" has become such a generic term these days... take the big 305 grain .44 Magnum ammo from Buffalo Bore as an example, it is loaded up to maximum SAAMI specifications and is more intended for use in a Ruger or T/C Contender than S&W's. Someone using that stuff and suffering a blow up could say that they were only using "factory" ammo.
At any rate, I sure pray nothing like that ever happens to me... for whatever reason.
I know of one individual that bought a used M27 and had the thing let loose with off the shelf Federal 240 gr JHP, and although he could not prove it, my gunsmith suspected that may have been the case, as the owner experiencing the blow up was a well known customer that did not reload and only used off the shelf stuff.
"Factory" has become such a generic term these days... take the big 305 grain .44 Magnum ammo from Buffalo Bore as an example, it is loaded up to maximum SAAMI specifications and is more intended for use in a Ruger or T/C Contender than S&W's. Someone using that stuff and suffering a blow up could say that they were only using "factory" ammo.
At any rate, I sure pray nothing like that ever happens to me... for whatever reason.
batmann
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claygrazer????????????????????????????????
MIM parts, I don't think so! Look at the picture
again. This a KABOOM. This ammo related and has nothing to do with parts, think frame and cyl!
MIM parts, I don't think so! Look at the picture
again. This a KABOOM. This ammo related and has nothing to do with parts, think frame and cyl!
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While I agree that factory ammo is although unlikely, I did have a factory ammo shotgun shell come apart on me once that was right off of the store shelf. I had just bought an NEF single shot in 12 gauge chambered for 2 3/4 & 3 inch shells, so I bought some 7 1/2 loads and a box of 5 slugs. I shot up about half of the birdshot rounds, then I put the first slug in. These were only 2 3/4 slugs, well within specs. After the trigger was pulled, that breech popped open, and I was peppered with powder. Luckily for me I wore glasses then. The base of the brass by the primer had ruptured and went past my face and I was left with a nasty "sunburn". All with factory ammo.
I think there's a typo here, somewhere.
claygrazer
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Good Grief man, it's a joke! Of course small MIM parts have nothing to do with the cylinder.
Clay
Mickey D
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Don't you know you need to use a different emoticon when joking? Geesh.
