Bob Vogel Mastering IDPA DVD: worth getting?

[jeffrey]

I have not seen instructional DVDs targeted for IDPA other than this one. It's not inexpensive. Is it worth the money?

The trailer for it on the makeready.tv website is worthless; it shows fancy production values but no idea of the kind/value of the information contained in the DVD.

 

[OKFC05]

I have not seen instructional DVDs targeted for IDPA other than this one.

Several around. Burkett's can be had for $20.

HQ IDPA sells some.
IDPA Pro Shop


Are you a beginner wanting to learn basics? Go to your IDPA club and watch the IDPA SO video for free.

 

[jeffrey]

Thanks OKFCO5, I'll look for the Burkett DVD. The IDPA pro shop doesn't have much in the way of IDPA-oriented DVDs other than the Bob Vogel ones. (I'd already looked there.)

I'm not quite new to IDPA; I'm a marksman in SSP and SSR. But I just can't seem to shoot a classifier better than 180 with either gun and I seem to have been a marksman forever!

And as for just watching: the really good shooters just go too fast for me to learn much! My brain is just too slow.

 

[OKFC05]

Well, it's a sport and some people are naturally going to be faster than others, even trained to the same level.

Where a good instructor can help is not shooting faster, but wasting less time in between the shooting. I also shoot SSR, and the average shooter spends more time reloading and gun handling than actually firing, so there's a way to reduce time and not blow accuracy by trying to shoot too fast: don't waste time! Take a second off the time to first shot and 1 1/2 sec off each reload, and calculate what that would do to your score.

 

[growr]

I learned several years ago from Ken Hackathorn that efficiency in transitions/reloads can make up a LOT of time in small increments.

Being very quick and deliberate on your revolver reloads is paramount. It needs to be almost on auto pilot.

However, I never sacrifice accuracy for speed....I take great pride in shooting clean matches as rapidly as possible.

Hope that helps you somehow.

Randy

PS...I will tell you ( and my fellow competitors will confirm this) that I am NOT the speediest guy on the range by any stretch of the imagination but I AM very accurate.

 

[m657]

I took a cowboy action trainer a number of years ago. The first thing the instructors (both certified champs) said that impressed me was "We aren't going to make you shoot faster. Our goal is to teach you to leave out the time-wasting stuff that isn't shooting".

A few hours practice and they had reduced my stage times by about 50%. And I wasn't "faster" I was just leaving out the stuff they showed I didn't know I was doing, that slowed me down.

I still ain't no fast-stage performer though, but I have found a new way to enjoy going as good as I can.

 

[jeffrey]

Thanks for all the advice. But I guess no one can answer the question I asked. I was hoping that this DVD might help me with those kind of time-saving/efficiency ideas that you have all obtained in classes and such. If I end up buying the DVD, I will post a review.

 

[ikor]

Thanks for all the advice. But I guess no one can answer the question I asked. I was hoping that this DVD might help me with those kind of time-saving/efficiency ideas that you have all obtained in classes and such. If I end up buying the DVD, I will post a review.

Why not try a subscription to their streaming video service? I have and find it is great. For less than $20 a month you have something like 24 DVDs...including the one you are asking about...readily available on youir computer screen. I have not watched it yet as I have little interest in IDPA.

They are up front about saying that your CC or debit card, etc. will be charged every month until you specifically ask them to stop, but that is something to be aware of.

 

[moosedan]

I took a class after a shoot in Florida with some great people I would have to say I would take it all over again I know he does classes for I have considered taking. I think it's a product worth looking at I still use his comments and try to practice what he said six mounths ago.