Bore Brush got stuck in new SW22?

[Magload]

Well after reading all these post about leading and Remington Thunderturds I took a look in my ammo locker. I have shot up about 500 of them and have around 1500 left. So I got all my 22LR handguns out of the safe and range bag and bore light and had a look. 4 pistols and a revolver and the bores were dirty, I hate cleaning guns, so I ran the snake through all of them with Shooter's Choice FP-10. All looked like a mirror so I guess there was no leading. I was concerned because my Victory ate the biggest share of them and has had 1550 rounds down the pipe most being plain lead bullets. Tac 22 being the biggest share.

 

[Targets Guy]

Well after reading all these post about leading and Remington Thunderturds I took a look in my ammo locker. I have shot up about 500 of them and have around 1500 left. So I got all my 22LR handguns out of the safe and range bag and bore light and had a look. 4 pistols and a revolver and the bores were dirty, I hate cleaning guns, so I ran the snake through all of them with Shooter's Choice FP-10. All looked like a mirror so I guess there was no leading. I was concerned because my Victory ate the biggest share of them and has had 1550 rounds down the pipe most being plain lead bullets. Tac 22 being the biggest share.

Interesting. Our Victory's are about even with regard to rounds fired; mine has shot 1525. It shoots all of the bullets I have put through it fine. Only the Remington Thunderbolts lead up in it. I have five mags with this pistol. My normal range session had been to shoot 50 rounds, check the barrel tightness, reload the mags and shoot again and repeat. This worked great until the Thunderbolts.

An example of my last two cleaning session after shooting 150 Thunderbolts.



The last time was so bad I got the cleaning rod with jag stuck in the barrel and I had to take it to a gunsmith to get the rod out. No barrel damage so that was a good thing.

Also when I first got the Victory it would not cycle the TAC-22. After I went over 1,000 rounds it cycled them fine and they are now my primary rounds as Brownells have them on sale fairly often.

 

[Tom S.]

Interesting. Our Victory's are about even with regard to rounds fired; mine has shot 1525. It shoots all of the bullets I have put through it fine. Only the Remington Thunderbolts lead up in it. I have five mags with this pistol. My normal range session had been to shoot 50 rounds, check the barrel tightness, reload the mags and shoot again and repeat. This worked great until the Thunderbolts.

An example of my last two cleaning session after shooting 150 Thunderbolts.



The last time was so bad I got the cleaning rod with jag stuck in the barrel and I had to take it to a gunsmith to get the rod out. No barrel damage so that was a good thing.

Also when I first got the Victory it would not cycle the TAC-22. After I went over 1,000 rounds it cycled them fine and they are now my primary rounds as Brownells have them on sale fairly often.

Yup, that's lead, along with carbon. Bullets can lead for a number of reasons: too high pressure (bullet melts), too low pressure (bullet doesn't expand enough to seal and escaping gas cuts/melts lead), poor lead composition (too hard or too soft), lack of lubrication and a rough barrel. Since the price of lead has been pretty high, I wonder is Remington is mixing it with something else and it's overly soft.

I've shot Thunderbolts in the past, and while they weren't anything to write home about, they weren't bad, at least nothing like you guys are showing. Something had to change.

 

[Magload]

Interesting. Our Victory's are about even with regard to rounds fired; mine has shot 1525. It shoots all of the bullets I have put through it fine. Only the Remington Thunderbolts lead up in it. I have five mags with this pistol. My normal range session had been to shoot 50 rounds, check the barrel tightness, reload the mags and shoot again and repeat. This worked great until the Thunderbolts.

An example of my last two cleaning session after shooting 150 Thunderbolts.



The last time was so bad I got the cleaning rod with jag stuck in the barrel and I had to take it to a gunsmith to get the rod out. No barrel damage so that was a good thing.

Also when I first got the Victory it would not cycle the TAC-22. After I went over 1,000 rounds it cycled them fine and they are now my primary rounds as Brownells have them on sale fairly often.

Tac 22 are my round of choice also and I buy them the same place. With free shipping plan they are a good buy. I have tested 11 different rounds and at the indoor range with 20yds max they are very accurate. With the Labradar they have tested better then the Norma Match and a whole lot cheaper.

I have used the Volquartsen SS fluted/ported barrel since my Victory was new. I have a paint mark on the screw and the frame it hasn't moved a bit since I torgued it to 40 inpd with purple loc tite.

 

[Magload]

Yup, that's lead, along with carbon. Bullets can lead for a number of reasons: too high pressure (bullet melts), too low pressure (bullet doesn't expand enough to seal and escaping gas cuts/melts lead), poor lead composition (too hard or too soft), lack of lubrication and a rough barrel. Since the price of lead has been pretty high, I wonder is Remington is mixing it with something else and it's overly soft.

I've shot Thunderbolts in the past, and while they weren't anything to write home about, they weren't bad, at least nothing like you guys are showing. Something had to change.

I bought these Thunderbolts about a year and a half ago all at one time. Then they were the only thing i could find.

 

[Targets Guy]

I have discovered with the Thunderbolts that if you shoot them fast and mag after mag the problem worsens. They are not as bad when I shoot them in a revolver and take my time.

I am guessing the pistol barrel heats up with the rapid firing. But just a guess. When I mix one 10 round mag of Thunderbolts with 40 rounds of almost anything else the problem goes away.

 

[Targets Guy]

This from another session last month. Since this event I've been using my Thunderbolts much less. It will just take longer to get rid of them.

 

[Tom S.]

I bought these Thunderbolts about a year and a half ago all at one time. Then they were the only thing i could find.

Yup, I'm not sure how old mine are, but they are lot older than that, at least a decade or more.

 

[BigBill]

They do offer shorter bore brushes for handguns. The longer bore brushes are for thru bores like rifles and auto pistols.