fonejack54
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Does bottled water last forever if in a cool dimly lighted basement area. What kind of canned goods would last there for a decent amount of time. Thanks !!
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mkk41
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Bottled water and canned goods all have shelf life , and most have a 'best before' date on them. Cans do corrode (I've opened 2yr old cans of soup to find rust) and so-called 'natural spring water' has living things (algae,bacteria) in it which could grow into other things.
Distilled water has a longer shelf life.
Distilled water has a longer shelf life.
Arik
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Problem with bottle water is the bottle. Its cheap plastic that lets in light and other things. They are intended to be used fairly quickly. If you buy a special food grade plastic water jug and pour the water in there it will last longer but not indefinitely.
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CAJUNLAWYER
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How does water go bad??? It has been around since the earth was formed and what you drink has been "around the block" uncountable times.
Alpo
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Water lasts forever. The bottle don't. Yes, there is a shelf-life on the bottle. That's because they want you to buy more.
Canned goods, usually, have a "sell by" or "Best by" date of about a year and a half or two years after they are made. They last much longer than that. I date my food when I buy it, because I buy in bulk. I'm still eating stuff that's dated 4/04.
How you store it has a lot to do with how long it lasts. Also what it is. Tomatoes, I've found, do not last as long as other items. The acid in them either causes them to "go off" (which you can tell because the can starts to swell) or eats a hole in the can.
Your best bet is rotate. ROTATE!!.
Let's say you like Green Giant Nibblets. When the store has a sale on Green Giant Vegetables, buy 10 cans. Find the exp. date on the can, and write it on the label with a Sharpie. In BIG LETTERS. You need some corn for supper? Get a can. Next time you go to the store, REPLACE THAT CAN. It don't matter that you still have nine cans on the shelf. Replace that can. Mark it with the expiration date AND PUT IT AT THE BACK OF THE OTHER CANS. That way you are constantly rotating your stock of canned corn.
Do that with everything you buy. Pork and beans, Spam, Tuna fish, whatever.
Store the stuff you actually eat. If you don't like Spam - if your family won't eat Spam - it does not matter that Spam lasts for years Don't store it. Store Dinty Moore Beef Stew, or Casslebury's Barbecue Pork, or whatever it is that your family actually eats.
And then ROTATE IT.
Canned goods, usually, have a "sell by" or "Best by" date of about a year and a half or two years after they are made. They last much longer than that. I date my food when I buy it, because I buy in bulk. I'm still eating stuff that's dated 4/04.
How you store it has a lot to do with how long it lasts. Also what it is. Tomatoes, I've found, do not last as long as other items. The acid in them either causes them to "go off" (which you can tell because the can starts to swell) or eats a hole in the can.
Your best bet is rotate. ROTATE!!.
Let's say you like Green Giant Nibblets. When the store has a sale on Green Giant Vegetables, buy 10 cans. Find the exp. date on the can, and write it on the label with a Sharpie. In BIG LETTERS. You need some corn for supper? Get a can. Next time you go to the store, REPLACE THAT CAN. It don't matter that you still have nine cans on the shelf. Replace that can. Mark it with the expiration date AND PUT IT AT THE BACK OF THE OTHER CANS. That way you are constantly rotating your stock of canned corn.
Do that with everything you buy. Pork and beans, Spam, Tuna fish, whatever.
Store the stuff you actually eat. If you don't like Spam - if your family won't eat Spam - it does not matter that Spam lasts for years Don't store it. Store Dinty Moore Beef Stew, or Casslebury's Barbecue Pork, or whatever it is that your family actually eats.
And then ROTATE IT.
Bottled water lasts indefinitely.
Drinking Water FAQs - EPA and Others Answer to Frequently Asked Questions ABout Your Drinking Water
Drinking Water FAQs - EPA and Others Answer to Frequently Asked Questions ABout Your Drinking Water
Gatofeo
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The water will last indefinitely, but its plastic container taints the water. Plastic is made from petroleum. Over time, this will leach into the water.
I know what I'm talking about. I live in the remote Utah desert and regularly carry water in my vehicle, in 2-1/2 gallon jugs or 500 ml bottles. I change it at least once a year, because of the plastic taste pervading the water.
It would be okay to use in the radiator, and sprinkle on the lawn, but I would avoid introducing petroleum byproducts into my body. Research shows that petroleum is carcinogenic. Used motor oil is one of the worst.
In a stainless steel container, water would last a long, long time. In plastic, not so much. Even the best bottled water has a few microbes in it, that will eventually proliferate. Water poured from bottled water into larger containers should probably be sterilized a bit more by adding a few drops of chlorine bleach per gallon. This will stifle microbe production, at least longer than if you just pour and seal.
I buy bottled water for home, and rotate it. Rotation is key to maintaining fresh stock.
And no, you need not rotate rum, whiskey, gin and other spirits -- but you should play it safe and sample them on the rocks or with mixer at least once a month, if not more often.
In a SHTF situation, booze is very useful: fire starter, anesthetic, calmative, something of a sterilizer depending on proof, excellent sore throat medicine and a psychological booster (but a depressant if too much is used).
Rum and whiskey are perhaps the best emergency spirits, solely because their flavor is more tolerable than gin or brandy to non-drinkers.
I know what I'm talking about. I live in the remote Utah desert and regularly carry water in my vehicle, in 2-1/2 gallon jugs or 500 ml bottles. I change it at least once a year, because of the plastic taste pervading the water.
It would be okay to use in the radiator, and sprinkle on the lawn, but I would avoid introducing petroleum byproducts into my body. Research shows that petroleum is carcinogenic. Used motor oil is one of the worst.
In a stainless steel container, water would last a long, long time. In plastic, not so much. Even the best bottled water has a few microbes in it, that will eventually proliferate. Water poured from bottled water into larger containers should probably be sterilized a bit more by adding a few drops of chlorine bleach per gallon. This will stifle microbe production, at least longer than if you just pour and seal.
I buy bottled water for home, and rotate it. Rotation is key to maintaining fresh stock.
And no, you need not rotate rum, whiskey, gin and other spirits -- but you should play it safe and sample them on the rocks or with mixer at least once a month, if not more often.
In a SHTF situation, booze is very useful: fire starter, anesthetic, calmative, something of a sterilizer depending on proof, excellent sore throat medicine and a psychological booster (but a depressant if too much is used).
Rum and whiskey are perhaps the best emergency spirits, solely because their flavor is more tolerable than gin or brandy to non-drinkers.
Sven
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It seems like most water bottles contain a harmful chemical called BPA that leaches out, especially if you store your bottled water for long periods of time. "They" say plastic HDPE (with the recycling code of plastic #2), low-density polyethylene (LDPE, plastic #4) or polypropylene (PP, or plastic #5) are safer.
Arik
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I always rotate my bottled water. At any given time i have about 10-15 packs of individual sized bottled water and as i use em i buy more. Often when they are on sale, say $3 for a 12 pack, i will buy $20 worth. Plus i always have the big ones too
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Gatofeo-
Good post! BTW, a doctor told me that brandy is also a potent bronchial irritant. That reflects my exprience of it, including the best cognacs.
Good post! BTW, a doctor told me that brandy is also a potent bronchial irritant. That reflects my exprience of it, including the best cognacs.
Arik
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Switch to good, real Tequila. Great taste no hangovers no nothing!! Just make sure it says "100% agave", NOT "made with". Made with is 51% tequila 49% corn liquor
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Gatofeo
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Um ... I've had terrible hangovers with a variety of tequila. Alcohol is alcohol, so I can't believe that some types of booze don't bring hangovers.
My longtime remedy for hangover is to head it off: drink plenty of water while you're also drinking any kind of alcohol. Much of the hangover comes from dehydration, so I'll keep a glass of icewater handy for a chaser.
Before I go to sleep, I drink a big ol' slug of water.
Yep, I'm getting up in the middle of the night to drain some of that water, but the next morning my head's a lot clearer.
Oh gawd, have I had bouts with tequila. I came out swinging, but the bout-timer was blind and the bell-ringer was sleeping, so the bout went on all night. I lost. I'll never do that again, but occasionally I like a good shot of real mezcal or tequila.
My longtime remedy for hangover is to head it off: drink plenty of water while you're also drinking any kind of alcohol. Much of the hangover comes from dehydration, so I'll keep a glass of icewater handy for a chaser.
Before I go to sleep, I drink a big ol' slug of water.
Yep, I'm getting up in the middle of the night to drain some of that water, but the next morning my head's a lot clearer.
Oh gawd, have I had bouts with tequila. I came out swinging, but the bout-timer was blind and the bell-ringer was sleeping, so the bout went on all night. I lost. I'll never do that again, but occasionally I like a good shot of real mezcal or tequila.
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The link above says that the plastic taste is passed on by lower grade plastic containers but that PET bottles are a higher grade and do not impart a plastic taste.... By coincidence, I have been drinking some PET bottled water this week that dates from about a year and a half ago. No funny taste.
