627 city hunter
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Thoughts or experience with this ammo?
Anyone know any ballistics or performance of either?
Anyone know any ballistics or performance of either?
Bought some PPU .357 10.2g/158 gr SJHP and Federal 180 gr HST JHP XM40HC
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Fishinfool
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Never fired PPU ammo in a handgun caliber, but I have used quite a bit in 308 win. (7.62x51), and have found it to be high quality ammo. It is actually Prvi Partizan ammo, made in Serbia.
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Cool, I was aware of the name and manufacturing counrty. I am thinking about an Arma-Lite AR-10(t).
I think PPU is loaded a little hotter than SAAMI spec, correct?
I think PPU is loaded a little hotter than SAAMI spec, correct?
Fishinfool
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Actually, I have an AR10-T, as well as an M1a, and a CETME. The PPU ammo functions fine thru all three, and is very accurate as well (The 147 grain FMJ 7.62x51 marked ammo). I have heard nothing about it being loaded hotter than SAAMI specs. NATO spec 7.62 is loaded slightly lighter than 308 win. commercial ammo, but the difference is very small, and of no real issue in a modern gun. Some guns, like the M1a, are best fired with NATO spec ammo, not because of strength, but because the design of the weapon can possibly cause a slam fire with soft primers in some sporting ammo.
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WOW!!!
I hope you are still online!
Which rifle do you favor???
I was looking at Cetme's, M1's and FAL's today at the gun show.
I know the Arma-Lite AR-10(t) is a little different than the others.
I hope you are still online!
Which rifle do you favor???
I was looking at Cetme's, M1's and FAL's today at the gun show.
I know the Arma-Lite AR-10(t) is a little different than the others.
Fishinfool
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Good question, and hard to answer In addition to those three, I have also owned a couple FAL's, and a HK-91, which is very similar to the CETME.
The Armalite is the most modern, with lots of aftermarket accessories available. Great trigger, and very accurate. Mine does under an inch with ammo it likes.
The M1a is a standard version. Had a NM model as well, but sold it, as the standard model was just as accurate. 100% reliable with about 2k thru it. Shoots very good, solid one inch, or slightly under with the right ammo. When mounting a scope on this rifle, it is important to use a good mount. The ARMS mount works well on mine.
The CETME is a mixed bag. Mine is an early Century Arms model with the cast stainless steel receiver. Later production uses stamped steel, the same as the original HK's. Problem is the later ones with the stamped receivers seem to be a **** shoot as to quality of manufacture, reliability, and accuracy - from what I have read. I still own mine because it has been reliable in the extreme, and accurate to boot. The muzzle brake they use on these rifles make them soft shooting, but loud as heck. The fluted chambers of this action style really mangle the brass, if reloading is a concern.
Sold both FAL's, as I just never warmed to them. Decent rifles though.
For a new rifle, I would look at the Armalite, or a Springfield Armory M1a. From there, its just a matter of what you like - modern, plastic, with lots of custom options, or more traditional, walnut and blued steel. Both really are nice weapons.
Larry
The Armalite is the most modern, with lots of aftermarket accessories available. Great trigger, and very accurate. Mine does under an inch with ammo it likes.
The M1a is a standard version. Had a NM model as well, but sold it, as the standard model was just as accurate. 100% reliable with about 2k thru it. Shoots very good, solid one inch, or slightly under with the right ammo. When mounting a scope on this rifle, it is important to use a good mount. The ARMS mount works well on mine.
The CETME is a mixed bag. Mine is an early Century Arms model with the cast stainless steel receiver. Later production uses stamped steel, the same as the original HK's. Problem is the later ones with the stamped receivers seem to be a **** shoot as to quality of manufacture, reliability, and accuracy - from what I have read. I still own mine because it has been reliable in the extreme, and accurate to boot. The muzzle brake they use on these rifles make them soft shooting, but loud as heck. The fluted chambers of this action style really mangle the brass, if reloading is a concern.
Sold both FAL's, as I just never warmed to them. Decent rifles though.
For a new rifle, I would look at the Armalite, or a Springfield Armory M1a. From there, its just a matter of what you like - modern, plastic, with lots of custom options, or more traditional, walnut and blued steel. Both really are nice weapons.
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Thanks!
It seems the Arma-Lite AR-10(t) is steal for $1500.00 then.
It seems the Arma-Lite AR-10(t) is steal for $1500.00 then.
