.223 55 gr. JSP for home defense?

[tom2]

I for one, am astounded that there is a debate about any kind of rifle cartridge going 3000 fps at close range not having enough penetration for defense against humans unless they are wearing expensive ballistic armor.

 

[Doug M.]

Oh, BTW: As a rule, one should get genuine 5.56X45 service ammo, NOT .223.Of course, that requires making sure the rifle is built and chambered to the proper standard.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

... What say you, though? Am I missing something, or perhaps being unrealistic? Are there better loads for my particular application? Please let me know, and thank you in advance.

It depends on where you live. Ranch land, log cabin, apartment or a tract home?

What is your skillset and training?

 

[NoSteponSnek]

Oh, BTW: As a rule, one should get genuine 5.56X45 service ammo, NOT .223.Of course, that requires making sure the rifle is built and chambered to the proper standard.

I agree, but some of those loads can be really difficult to obtain. Especially ones that aren't factory seconds or marked "for training only."

It depends on where you live. Ranch land, log cabin, apartment or a tract home?

What is your skillset and training?

Tract home is probably the closest thing to what I have. As for my skillset/training, I am by no means a seasoned operator, but I'm passably familiar with the platform and try to practice at the range as well as with my mounted weaponlight whenever possible.

 

[Bald1]

We're talking about ACTIVE electronic ear protection. You can hear ambient noise but they protect your hearing from impulse noise like gunfire.



After you suffer permanent hearing loss, you might change your opinion.


Different topic, but if anyone cares to see how interior walls handle bullets (or the other way around) it's easy--if your range allows it. Buy one 2x4x8 and a couple of 2x2 foot drywall patching pieces. Make a roughly 2x2 hollow box frame ~4 inches thick. I used drywall screws to attach the drywall. You can either put down some plastic to catch any plaster dust or tell folks the gypsum is good for the grass (it's true).

The promo video from one of the frangible bullet ammo companies showed their ammo sawing a 6x6 in half. Typically, frangible/reduced ricochet bullets are intended to fragment on hard surfaces. NOT drywall. They're intended for use on steel targets at close range or in places where putting holes in steel piping is frowned upon (oil rigs, refineries, etc). I guess the concrete walls in many housing projects would qualify.

Yes I know what you're talking about. I wear electronic muffs at the range. My point is I'm not fumbling around with ear muffs in a critical situation. Just an unnecessary step.

 

[Bald1]

I didn't see any mention of frangible ammo. I think that many LE departments use it.

Fiocchi Ext a Frangible Leadless 45 gr Lead-Free Frangible 223 Ammo | Palmetto State Armory

Personally I'm not using an AR inside without a can. Way too loud. It's your hearing though, not mine.

Again, this sounds silly. My hearing is not my main concern if someone wants to kill me or a loved one….. Seay belts might break my ribs but I still wear it. Air bags might break my nose but I still want them.

 

[w.r.gun]

So if something goes bump in the night , are you guys actually suggesting putting on ear pro? Or are you referring to practice? Because I think it's a given people wear ear pro while practicing. And if I think someone is in my house , ear protection is not really a priority for me.

What?

 

[Bald1]

What?

My response was to posts about a rifle being to loud in a house. And therefore not using it. Read the whole thread.

 

[w.r.gun]

I did,but I am hard of hearing from shooting my .223 in the house. Get it,What did you say?

 

[imashooter2]

64 grain Winchester Power Max would be my choice if I were to be using a .223 AR for home defense.