Utter Terminal Ballistic Failure....

[bill1917]

Were you shooting these in a semi-auto or revolver? Would they feed in a semi-auto or even fit in the magazine?

 

[rwsmith]

Yes indeed...

Were you shooting these in a semi-auto or revolver? Would they feed in a semi-auto or even fit in the magazine?

Semi auto and yes they would fit and feed. If they wouldn't work, I wouldn't have gone as far as testing in clay. I describe some of the problems in earlier posts.

 

[rwsmith]

Beware that Play Dough is somewhat temperature sensitive. It gets a lot harder in cold temperatures.

This was 'calibrated' by me to be soft to the point of being a little runny.

And it was BEAUTIFUL day. Temperature perfect. And I did the clay right after the Chrony testing so they had been indoors or in the warm car.

 

[rwsmith]

Here is some pics from the old test into paper.

IME, the final appearance of the bullet is not important, it's just the tool. The wound cavity is the job.
Don't get stuck on weight retention or expanded diameter.
Depth and volume of the wound cavity are what matters.
Did it deliver?

Also IME, a cast lead bullet does not need much to get busy expanding. smaller, shallower point cavities with some flare seem to get things started quite well. Once started, cast lead keeps at it till the energy is spent. Don't expect them to retain weight like a JHP. It simply can't. it's just something you need to accept

Here ya go......

 

[Rotorhead1026]

THIS is utter terminal ballistic failure.

George Reeves Bullet Proof - YouTube

 

[Forrest r]

AFA those Ness Hollowpoints are concerned...

According to what I can find, i.e., the HG #38 Ness Safety Hollowpoint casts (per MP Molds) as 150gr in 0.311"... That couldn't be a 9mm bullet in the images!

Can't imagine how a design like that could be used in 9mm: could never get them to feed or even fit in a magazine. The Federal 38 Special +P 135gr HST Micro needs to be loaded as a wadcutter (or, close to one), and that's in much longer 38 Special or 357 Magnum brass...

Cheers!

Interesting.
I have no idea why you think that that ness bullet was supposed to be used in a 9mm???

This thread is about hp failure or perceived failure. Just putting out there that someting things are not as they appear.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

Interesting thread. It is late and I'm getting tired so I will leave it at that.

 

[rwsmith]

That's still cool.....

THIS is utter terminal ballistic failure.

George Reeves Bullet Proof - YouTube

....after all these years. Unfortunately, the last bullet WASN'T a failure.

 

[Rotorhead1026]

....after all these years. Unfortunately, the last bullet WASN'T a failure.

Yes, quite the controversy.