Bought The TRR8 - Perfect Decision

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So I had a thread the other day on here as I found a gun store that had both the TRR8 as well as the M&P version as well as the 5" 627.

Now me and the PC 627 w/5" barrel go back to ca. 2009 when I used to compete with it. And I still have and carry two PC 627's in the 2.625" Barrel. I couldn't even guess the number of rounds I have through the 627 platform. On the other hand, the 327 TRR8 I've known about and admired, but did not have a single shot through one before today.

Finally today on my third trip to that dealer I bought the TRR8 saying to myself that if I hate it I'll sell it and it'll be a $300 or so lesson. Deciding factors, two reviews that got 2" groups at 50 yards with certain ammunition and a few other things. Bought it, cleaned it, went straight to the range and shot three boxes of .38 Special and two additional boxes of .357 Magnum.

REPORT:

ACCURACY: The big surprise. May be at least as accurate as my Wilson Combat 1911 9mm which until today was the most accurate hand gun I've ever owned (maybe my 7.5" Barrel 629 is more accurate, but hardly the same use). The TRR8's accuracy is just remarkable really. After shooting only snub revolvers for the last few years, what an easy aim. After an action job I'll be tempted to compete with this gun.

RECOIL MANAGEMENT: See the quote from TACTICAL LIFE in Post #5 just after the TRR*8 list, - sums it up perfectly if not with a little hyperbole.

Although with the Scandium framed TRR8 weighs 2 oz. less than my 586 L-Comp 3" Barrel and also weighs less than my 627 2.625" Barrel, the TRR8 is easily the least effected by heavy Magnum loads. Now both the 627 and 586 do a great job, but maybe it's the bigger Hogue rubber grips and the long barrel, but the 327 TRR8 just doesn't have that *SNAP* when firing, and I actually enjoy the big stuff. You can tell the difference with .38 special to, but not as marked. All the more surprising when you pick it up and go, "man this thing is light." (35 oz.).

ACTION: (see BUMMERS below)

ACCESORIES: As you can see in the first picture, the TRR8 came with removable top and bottom rails for optics above and a light or laser below. I will soon be placing an Aimpoint Micro T-2 Red Dot Sight, and it'll come back off after hunting season. A little tedious but easy to get mounts on and off, and your sights are still usable with the top rail on.

LEATHER: My N Frame holsters work fine, but if I try to put on the lower rail it almost works, but it's just too crowded. With the rail off, great! My existing 627 N Frame leather works without the rails, but I've ordered two additional. A Simply Rugged that will be able to include the lower rail, and a second custom holster that will include the Aimpoint when it is mounted.

FLEXIBILITY: Not a concealment weapon for sure. But great woods gun, and a potentially good hunter. With an optic, I would have no problem loading 500 - 700 ft. lbs. hunting ammo and take down just about anything in the South Eastern U.S. short of a massive hog and hunt confidently with the right ammo from a gun rest out to 125 yards (I also have a 629 with a 2x20 Leupold). Shooting American Eagle today, I could see dropping down in power to Federal White Box and competing Speed Steel with this gun; and with the American Eagle or White Box trying USPSA. For either competition at a minimum a defensive action job would be called for.

UPDATE: Not ideal, but not as hard to conceal as I thought it would be. By dropping the weapon into my Galco High Ride Silhouette, the gun rides high enough that with a shirt with a low enough hem, or certainly a light jacket or sweater, it's workable. The mere 35 oz. weight makes it a nice carry if you're careful about it.

BUMMERS: 1. The supplied Hogue rubber is really narrow, and my largish hands need grips with more girth. I ordered the Rosewood Hogues pictured below. 2. Good even action throughout the DA cycle but maybe the heaviest Perf Ctr action in SA I've ever experienced. Somewhat heavy in DA, but surprisingly not bad given the SA. I was still acceptably accurate with this gun DA and SA. Anyway, the boys at TK Custom will fix this right up for me as they have done on three previous weapons (Two 627's and one 586 L-Comp). 3. A lot of unique features to this gun, like the unique multi-piece barrel for accuracy that takes special tools (can't use a standard barrel wrench), the scandium frame, but S&W just supplies the generic revolver manual.

BIG QUESTIONS:

1. I'm squared away on holsters when the gun has no accessories attached. WHO CAN I ORDER A CUSTOM HOLSTER FROM FOR USE WHEN THE OPTIC BELOW IS ON THE TOP RAIL?

2. Any specific wood or rubber and wood Hogue grips anyone would recommend for a round butt N Frame is greatly appreciated.

THANK YOU!!!

Thanks for helping me decide folks. I'm very satisfied.

p.s. Sold my Perf. Ctr. 686+, nothing wrong with that gun, just with the other two snubs in the 586 L-Comp and 627 UDR, the 686+ was never getting carried or shot.
 

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Thanks for the review, I've lusted for the TRR8 myself. My question(s) for you is, which do you prefer between the 627 and 586 pictured, and why?
 
Thanks for the review, I've lusted for the TRR8 myself. My question(s) for you is, which do you prefer between the 627 and 586 pictured, and why?

Well I did a lot of endless reading prior to my purchase, so a lot fresh on my mind, it's an easy list for me.

If I could only have one, the 586 L-Comp because of carry and duty - but it wouldn't be as much fun!

TRR8
- N Frame fits my hand better than L Frame.
- TRR8 More Accurate
- TRR8 Handles Recoil Better
- TRR8 A Better Woods Gun for 550 to 750 ft. lbs. ammo if you need it.
- TRR8 Is 2 oz. lighter
- Aim is easier with longer distance between front and rear sights
- TRR8 has included rails for optics, light, whatever
- TRR8 not an easy find for holsters, especially if you have an optic on, I've been in touch with a custom guy.
- You'll have more fun at the range
- Stainless Steel with flat tactical black finish
- If there is such a thing as a cutting edge tactical revolver, arguably this is it.

From TacticalLife.com: "The 327 TRR8 has a very handy feel to it. The weight is wonderfully distributed and the way this gun handled .357 Mag ammunition made it the most comfortable .357 I’ve ever fired at any time in my life. It’s in no way abusive. The trademark torque that accompanies most .357s when fired with magnums was absent. I consumed around 200 rounds of .357 Mag ammo, not a round of which was light loaded. It was all full-power stuff. The softest shooting ammo of the test was CorBon DPX 125-grain."

586 L-Comp
- Highly concealable IWB or OWB
- Highly accurate for a snub
- Exceedingly great recoil control for a snub.
- Comes out of a level one retention holster very fast.
- Just reeks high quality (as does the TRR8)
- Compensated if that matters to you
- Arguably one of the best looking weapons in the S&W catalogue. I get complements all the time.
- Only revolver I have ever wanted to qualify with for my agency and I did.
- Blued finish is cool, but takes more TLC than SS.

For woods/hunting, range, competition, and home protection the TRR8, a lot of options with supplied rails. For .357 Magnum, the report is not as deafening out of the TRR8 as the 586 L-Comp - in fact this morning I had to call Moses back from a good half mile away (location pictured lower right) when he disappeared in to the woods, I fired two .357 Magnum Golden Sabers in to the ground, and by tilting my head away, covered my closest ear to the gun with my free hand, and my uncovered ear did not ring. Much :-).

For any season concealed carry, duty back-up, day in and day out actual use, the 586 L-Comp. Just started this year: if I'm in a patrol car this is tucked between the seats for me to fast grab should my car get rushed at an intersection or similar. This or the 627 snub also pictured. The 586 L Comp and the 627 UDR snub are my primary carry along with occasionally a Glock 35.

CERTAINLY NO SNUB, but conceals better than I thought if you're careful - with a Galco High Ride Silhouette. Just need a sweater, light jacket, or long shirt. 35 oz. is nice too. Picture 3 I've got it flush to my body with a reload before putting on a sweater.

"In the hands of a knowledgeable and trained individual, the revolver is more than an equal for any other defensive handgun." Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch
 

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I prefer round-to-square grips for revolvers with barrels longer than 3". If concealment is not a big issue, control and precision are better served with a longer grip.

My favorites are made by Ahrends. They are available in beautiful woods and un-checkered, which displays the grain nicely. Depending on your preference, they are available with or without finger grooves, in a new style with a flat front for good indexing, or a traditional (Retro) style closer to the S&W style. Ahrends grips are wider than Hogue's, which distributes recoil better and promotes a higher grip for less muzzle flip.
 
If you have large hands and fingers you may not be pleased with the size and spacing of the finger grooves on Hogue's wood grips.

If you have not yet ordered them see if your local gun shop has a set you can feel first. Even if they are for another firearm.

While the full finger groove style is what most shops stock, the Hogue grips can be ordered with top finger groove only or no finger grooves at all.

While my large hands a fingers can work with the top finger groove, I always order mine with no finger grooves.

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For finger groove grips, the older Smith and Wesson factory combat stocks are well sized and spaced for me. They are just harder and harder to find without paying large sums of money these days.

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The trigger on my TRR8 was pretty hinky, too.
Sent it off to a local guru who smoothed it out for the princely sum of $65.
Using it for steel challenge now, and it's in to S&W at the moment for a titanium cylinder.
Still struggling to find the best grip for this game, however.
Hogues just don't work for me, they are immediately consigned to the ever-growing junk grips box.
 
Great Scott, that's a beautiful firearm!!!

So I had a thread the other day on here as I found a gun store that had both the TRR8 as well as the M&P version as well as the 5" 627.

Now me and the PC 627 w/5" barrel go back to ca. 2009 when I used to compete with it. And I still have and carry two PC 627's in the 2.625" Barrel. I couldn't even guess the number of rounds I have through the 627 platform. On the other hand, the 327 TRR8 I've known about and admired, but did not have a single shot through one before today.

Finally today on my third trip to that dealer I bought the TRR8 saying to myself that if I hate it I'll sell it and it'll be a $300 or so lesson. Deciding factors, two reviews that got 2" groups at 50 yards with certain ammunition and a few other things. Bought it, cleaned it, went straight to the range and shot three boxes of .38 Special and two additional boxes of .357 Magnum.

REPORT:

ACCURACY: The big surprise. May be at least as accurate as my Wilson Combat 1911 9mm which until today was the most accurate hand gun I've ever owned (maybe my 7.5" Barrel 629 is more accurate, but hardly the same use). The TRR8's accuracy is just remarkable really. After shooting only snub revolvers for the last few years, what an easy aim. After an action job I'll be tempted to compete with this gun.

RECOIL MANAGEMENT: Although with the Scandium framed TRR8 weighs 2 oz. less than my 586 L-Comp 3" Barrel and also weighs less than my 627 2.625" Barrel, the TRR8 is easily the least effected by heavy Magnum loads. Now both the 627 and 586 do a great job, but maybe it's the bigger Hogue rubber grips and the long barrel, but the 327 TRR8 just doesn't have that *SNAP* when firing, and I actually enjoy the big stuff. You can tell the difference with .38 special to, but not as marked. All the more surprising when you pick it up and go, "man this thing is light." (35 oz.).

ACTION: (see BUMMERS below)

ACCESORIES: As you can see in the first picture, the TRR8 came with removable top and bottom rails for optics above and a light or laser below. I will soon be placing an Aimpoint Micro T-2 Red Dot Sight, and it'll come back off after hunting season. A little tedious but easy to get mounts on and off, and your sights are still usable with the top rail on.

LEATHER: My N Frame holsters work fine, but if I try to put on the lower rail it almost works, but it's just too crowded. With the rail off, great!

FLEXIBILITY: Not a concealment weapon for sure. But great woods gun, and a potentially good hunter. With an optic, I would have no problem loading 500 - 700 ft. lbs. hunting ammo and take down just about anything in the South Eastern U.S. short of a massive hog and hunt confidently with the right ammo from a gun rest out to 125 yards (I also have a 629 with a 2x20 Leupold). Shooting American Eagle today, I could see dropping down in power to Federal White Box and competing Speed Steel with this gun; and with the American Eagle or White Box trying USPSA. For either competition at a minimum a defensive action job would be called for.

BUMMERS: 1. The supplied Hogue rubber is really narrow, and my largish hands need grips with more girth. I ordered the Rosewood Hogues pictured below. 2. Good even action throughout the DA cycle but maybe the heaviest Perf Ctr action in SA I've ever experienced. Somewhat heavy in DA, but surprisingly not bad given the SA. I was still acceptably accurate with this gun DA and SA. Anyway, the boys at TK Custom will fix this right up for me as they have done on three previous weapons (Two 627's and one 586 L-Comp). 3. A lot of unique features to this gun, like the unique multi-piece barrel for accuracy that takes special tools (can't use a standard barrel wrench), the scandium frame, but S&W just supplies the generic revolver manual.

BIG QUESTIONS:

1. I'm squared away on holsters when the gun has no accessories attached. WHO CAN I ORDER A CUSTOM HOLSTER FROM FOR USE WHEN THE OPTIC BELOW IS ON THE TOP RAIL?

2. Any specific wood or rubber and wood Hogue grips anyone would recommend for a round butt N Frame is greatly appreciated.

THANK YOU!!!

Thanks for helping me decide folks. I'm very satisfied.

p.s. Sold my Perf. Ctr. 686+, nothing wrong with that gun, just with the other two snubs in the 586 L-Comp and 627 UDR, the 686+ was never getting carried or shot.

Congratulations 😁. I've been lusting for that model but can't justify buying something that'll probably be a safe Queen. I'd just take it out, fondle it and wipe it down... it's too purdy to shoot. I'll have to be satisfied with my 686_6, and I am.
 
Congratulations on your decision. Of course you haven't realized the eventual and inevitable regret of not having bought both yet ;-)
 
Looked at that site, seems to be all cowboy stuff. Not exactly what my TRR8 is for, or my cup of tea for that matter.

Yeah, you've got to go to the field holster section below all the cowboy stuff and talk to them on the phone and get them to build you the functional equivalent of a Galco Combat Master with or without a thumb-break which they're happy to do.

Groo here
Simple Rugged will build you one..

Thanks Groo! I ordered their sourdough pancake with accommodation for weapon light rail.

An overwhelming amount of grip choices for round butt N-frame revolvers!

Smith & Wesson N Frame Round Butt Revolver Grips | Altamont Company

Wow! What a nice selection!

The x-frame grips may help.

Yeah, I thought about that. But now having run various .357 Magnums through there doesn't seem to be a need. I agree with the Tactical Life review quoted previously: "The weight is wonderfully distributed and the way this gun handled .357 Mag ammunition made it the most comfortable .357 I’ve ever fired at any time in my life. It’s in no way abusive. The trademark torque that accompanies most .357s when fired with magnums was absent. I consumed around 200 rounds of .357 Mag ammo, not a round of which was light loaded. It was all full-power stuff."

Congratulations on your decision. Of course you haven't realized the eventual and inevitable regret of not having bought both yet ;-)

In all honesty, if I were to buy another it would be the M&P version of the TRR8. I haven't had this much satisfaction shooting in a long time.
 
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TRR8

I bought a TRR8 last spring and have enjoyed shooting it. Very accurate, with relatively light recoil, sort of like a .22 on steroids!

Also, I added the light rail (comes with the gun) and put a 800 lumen Surefire tactical light. Perfect!
 
Bought the M&P R8 Today as a companion to the TRR8 I bought Monday.

The M&P will run the Aimpoint Micro T-2 with dedicated holster, whilst the TRR8 will have the lower rail for the Streamlight TLR-2 800 Lumen Green Laser also with dedicated holster.
 

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