Boy Was I Surprised !

[much ado]

Some years back when our son moved out, kicked around, and ultimately bought a house back home in Richmond he surprised me (and scared me) when he told the story of what he thought was a possible intruder. Earlier on when in North Carolina I had given him a Fwt Model 70 to start "his" collection and at this time it was the only firearm he had as he told me the story of noises at his front door and his 2 dogs with hackles up and growling. and he`s standing there with a bolt rifle! Within a day I bought him a Rem Model 870 3 in Mag with (I forget) a 18 or 20 inch cyl bore barrel and black furniture and we didn`t put the plug in so he had 5 buckshot ready to go. I always figured I would run across a 26-28 inch barrel to give him that he could use to possibly hunt with it but it never happened until the last couple weeks when I got one of those e-mails (you know the kind advertising a sale which in this case happened to include a 3 in Mag barrel with a single removable choke for $79. So I pounced on it and it got here a couple days ago and I just opened the box to see the barrel and lo and behold ...on the flip top of the barrel box(and on the barrel) it says "Made in China" !!! To say I was floored is just about right. It looks just the way it`s supposed to except for those 3 words. It`s not going back but if I had known I doubt I would have made the purchase. I would likely still be on the hunt for a barrel. I hope my son uses it well and it`s the best patterning thing going.

 

[diyj98]

I may be wrong, but I don't think those Chinese 870 barrels use the Rem Choke system. Just be aware before you try to screw a Remington choke in it.

 

[30-30remchester]

Good to hear a father taking care of his family even though they are on their own. While a bolt action sounds odd, 2 world wars and countless skirmishes have been won with bolt action rifles.

 

[LVSteve]

I'm no expert on shotguns, but I expect that worrying about it being made in China might come under the heading of much ado.

I was reading an American Rifleman from last year where they tested a Chinese 870 clone and it seemed to work just fine. Besides, if it ever gets used in a home defense situation, it's going away to the land of the evidence locker for a good while. I'd sooner lose a $250 gun than a nicer one under those circumstances.

 

[SF VET]

Many years ago, when I was in officer basic at Ft. Benning, one day our TAC office told us that the night before, while he was out with us on some nite map course, his wife had awakened in their rental place to see a guy standing at the foot of her bed. She swung her double barrel at him, and as the intruder went out thru the window she let one barrel go. The TAC officer said the police found about half of his buttocks on the wall by the window.

Useful tools, those shotguns in dire circumstances. SF VET

 

[Mike-AK]

The TAC officer said the police found about half of his buttocks on the wall by the window.

Half-assed home invasion?

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

Half-assed home invasion?

Everything he did for the rest of his life was "Half-assed!"

Ivan

 

[Oscar Zulu]

I "fell" for the same promotion. Was a bit disappointed at the made in China stamp. My Rem-chokes did not fit, and it did not come with a choke tube as
advertised.
Appears that the inexpensive Remington made 870 barrels have dried up.
Does anyone know what choke tubes fit?

OZ

 

[much ado]

Choke system

Oscar Zulu,
I went back and found the e-mail and that barrel takes Winchester/Browning as well as Mossberg chokes I believe. They seem to be lesser priced in the scheme of things compared to others. The same ad that "got us" has some for 4ish dollars. They might be Chinese also...I`m going to look locally, maybe a little more here but no new freight bill.

 

[Kevin J.]

Good to hear a father taking care of his family even though they are on their own. While a bolt action sounds odd, 2 world wars and countless skirmishes have been won with bolt action rifles.

True for the First World War. Semi auto won the second.

 

[30-30remchester]

True for the First World War. Semi auto won the second.

We will give bolt actions a game tie in the winning of WW2. The Russians main battle rifle was a bolt action. The British main rifle was a bolt action that the Canadians and Indian troops also used. The Marines in the early parts of the war were armed with 1903's. My uncle in Bataan was issued a 1903 as was all of his army buddies. I study antique photos, especially war photos, to view gear and uniforms used. In a photograph of a landing craft going into the French coast at least one US soldier had a WW 1, 1917 Enfield. Springfields were still being issued to front line troops as late as mid 1944. So, for me I call it a tie with the self-loaders.

 

[Kevin J.]

Fair enough….

 

[waffles]

At that price, especially new, I'd neither be surprised nor upset about it being made in China. I'd also note that China has a pretty solid arms industry and can make some excellent guns when they choose to, including some 870 clones. Hope he enjoys it.

 

[LVSteve]

At that price, especially new, I'd neither be surprised nor upset about it being made in China. I'd also note that China has a pretty solid arms industry and can make some excellent guns when they choose to, including some 870 clones. Hope he enjoys it.

Indeed. In the SKS world, the Chinese guns are considered the most accurate. People who snagged the Norinco 1911 clones and had them worked on said then steel was first class. That said I have read that the Chinese M1A clones are somewhat hit or miss.

 

[boykinlp]

Many years ago, when I was in officer basic at Ft. Benning, one day our TAC office told us that the night before, while he was out with us on some nite map course, his wife had awakened in their rental place to see a guy standing at the foot of her bed. She swung her double barrel at him, and as the intruder went out thru the window she let one barrel go. The TAC officer said the police found about half of his buttocks on the wall by the window.

Useful tools, those shotguns in dire circumstances. SF VET

I always wondered what the term "butt hurt" meant, now I know!!
Larry

 

[DWalt]

The Norinco M1911s had a good reputation. Some of the big-name custom pistolsmiths gave them high marks. If you don't mind the "Model of the 1911" stamping on the slide.