Buying an RV for touring- advice/ recommendations

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We have planned to buy a driving RV since we got married in 1980 to use when we retire to tour around the country with no time or place restraints. The time has come.

My plan is to buy a used one for 2 people but could sleep up to 6 if necessary.

My current state of planning:



  • Likely Class C 22'-26'
  • Used/ preowned
  • Place to sleep while driving. (not the driver) The wife is adept at handling large vehicles)
  • Bathroom/shower
  • Stove and Microwave
  • Decent gas/ diesel mileage (I am partial to the Mercedes Sprinter 6 cyl diesel) Talk me out of it...
  • Price range $50K plus or minus $25K



We plan to use it for 2 possibly 3 years for touring the country and then sell it. (Our daughter lives in Spokane now so we have a place to head out West.



Any constructive advice appreciated. :D

Note: This is not a WTB request: that is in a different sub forum.
 
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Wife and I have a 24' 2004 Gulfstream BTCruiser with low miles that we are wanting to update. in the Fort Campbell Ky area if you are interested.
This is our 3rd RV (looking for #4) in the last 30 years. I started camping with my parents in the mid seventys with a pop up. If you have questions ask away.
 
Stay far away from the Sprinter vans with Dodge name plate. Buying a used RV is a huge gamble. Even buying new can be frustrating. If buying used inspect everything thoroughly.

We have four Mercedes Sprinter vans at work. Max vehicle weight is around 7500 pounds and we still manage to get close to 20 mpg. All are 2012 or newer.

They are very reliable but can be expensive to maintain and repair.

My parents had a Winnebago on a Sprinter chassis. I drove it 1000 miles while towing a small Hyundai. Didn’t even know it was there.
 
Don’t do it.....I just did and unless you get a newer model that is supported by a dealer it simply is a money pit. Better to use your capital to rent one when you want it. Or just fly to your destination, rent a car and stay in nice hotels.....
 
RV over trailer
If passenger wants to go to bathroom or eat from fridge no stopping and so what if you tow a car. with trailer you have to drive a big truck if you want to go anywhere.
 
Before you buy anything rent one for a two week trip. In that time period you will know if it is the way for you to go. On that two week trip go some place at least 6 or 700 miles from your starting point. if you can go in the spring and bring enough clothing for all weather conditions. Before you take off on the trip do not load up on groceries, only bring a few days worth with you. By doing this you will be able to experience most all the things that being a RVer entails.

My wife and I are on our 9th RV in 40 years of being married. I'm not a fan of motor homes or campers. We tow a 35' camp trailer with a single 12' slide out. For the past 4 years we have taken two major trips a year, one down to Nevada (about 2500 miles round trip) and a trip to Texas (about 5000 miles round trip). Our trips cost us just for fuel and RV camping right at 60 cents a mile. Not even counting the cost of the unit you buy you will be traveling by one of the most expensive methods that there is.

RV life is not for everyone. Three of the RV's we have bought were less than 6 months old. People bought them and did not know what they were getting themselves into. The best place to buy a used RV is either Florida or Arizona in the late winter or early spring. Lots of people have this retirement dream of being snowbirds and only ever make one trip.

Good luck in your travels.
 
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Since you asked, I'll give my opinion, based on a gas motorhome (class C), and maybe a half dozen trailer / vehicle combos I have owned or used. Bear in mind its based on my usual use, which is often mild off road, or bad weather travel while hunting and fishing.

If it were me, I would spend maybe 35k on a nice, clean, used Chevy or Ford 4wd 3/4 ton diesel P/U, and another 10 - 15k on a clean, used 5th wheel trailer of shorter length, and with several slide outs.

You gain poor weather traction, user flexibility, increased room for guests, probably increased reliability, and better resale down the road.

The convenience of being able to come and go between the camper - drivers areas while on the road in a motorhome is offset by the fact that anyone in the camper section is at much greater risk of injury in a bad accident as opposed to being up front, seat belted in a passenger seat surrounded by airbags.

R/E the MB Sprinter vans - I know several contractors around here who use them, and seem to really like them.

Larry
 
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As mentioned by someone else, save your money and get a comfortable car to travel in and stay in hotels. You can stay in lots of nice places, in nice car, with lots of good food, for multiple trips before you even come close to the cost of an RV. Add the cost a maintenance and what you'll spend outfitting supplies, and there are a couple more trips. RVs are expensive and you really have to need/use one to justify it.

Last couple of years I worked as part of a motorsports team that traveled nationwide. One of my jobs was to drive one of the RVs to each race. The one I drove and slept in was a big diesel pusher built on a freightliner, and cost like 400k. It was nice, but the experience has forever pushed me away from RVs.

It will break. A lot. Not only mechanical but the little things inside. Unless you have the ability to fix stuff yourself, you will be out a bunch of money for repairs.

Sleeping and driving isn't really an option. You'll never be comfortable bouncing down the road, so you'll be stopping a lot anyway to sleep.

I got stir crazy in the one we were using, and it got to the point where I hated going across the country for a race. You spend all day driving in it, you eat and sleep in it, it has to be cleaned like a house because it gets dirty like a house, it honestly became a grind with no way personal space. Even the husband/wife of our team got crossways over personal space in their RV. Add in others, and yeah, not a great situation.

Like boats and airplanes, the worst thing you can do with one is let it sit. They need to be used regularly.

If you decide to get one, which you probably will if you've been planning since 1980, I do have some advice. Flying J's are very RV friendly and have good showers, you'll be taking a lot of showers in RVs because of the water usage management. Learn to use google maps - their satellite photos in particular - because parking can get tight and it is easier to plan stuff out in advance than try to wedge one into a tight spot on the fly. Don't just go expecting to park anywhere, even a smaller one. Watch people on the road, they don't understand that you cannot drive like you are in a car and they will put you into bad situations just because they are ignorant of that. You have to be very defensive in an RV.

Mostly, I would tell you to take a hard, hard look at what traveling you would like to do and how much, balance that against the upfront and ongoing costs, plus the depreciation of it, all the headaches that will be involved, and then make a decision.
 
I've been camping starting with my parents in the 1950s. I've camped in popups, trailers, 5th wheels, slide in pickup camper, Class C and A. We've camped in every state (yes, even Hawaii in tents), Canada, and Mexico. We've found 5th wheels to be the most useful for us. There are advantages/disadvantages with each type. You just have to try them and find what works best for you. The pop ups were the most fun because we pulled it everywhere - from 4 wheel drive trails high in the Rockies to downtown NYC on a Sunday morning.
We've had 5th wheels from 28 ft to our current 40 ft. I pull it with a Ford F-350 4X4, 8 ft bed, extended cab. You don't need a 4X4 for pulling but when we stop we like to hit some off the beaten path roads so 4X4 works for us.
This past summer we left in May and spent the summer traveling Alaska, Alberta, BC, and the Yukon. I didn't want to pull a 40 ft 5th wheel so we bought a 26ft trailer for the trip. That worked well. There were a lot of places we couldn't have gotten around with the 40 ft. The trailer had 1 slide out and was a bunkhouse. Even tho there was only 2 of us the bunkhouse was really useful for storing extra clothes, etc. One advantage of pulling the trailer over the 5th wheel was I put a cover on the pickup bed where I carried our generator, extra tires, fuel and water cans, tool box, etc. With a 5th wheel the available truck bed space is limited due to the hitch. But for pulling the 5th wheel pulls a whole lot better than a trailer particularly in wind or meeting semis.
We're now looking for another 5th wheel but haven't found one yet we like the layout. We won't go with another 40 ft. Something in the 36 ft range. Pulling and maneuvering I don't notice any difference in the length. We want the shorter length because many times when we've called for space availability and tell them we have a 40 footer we get the "Gee. We might have a spot left where you will fit." We never had that issue when we had shorter 5th wheels.
As others have mentioned if you're going with a Class A or C, particularly if you're out long term, if you're not pulling a towed then where ever you go you're going to have to find a rental to get around. If you're set up for an extended stay you're not going to want to break camp every time you need to run to Walmart or get groceries. Depending on where you plan on traveling rentals may not be available. We never found our Class A and C to be as convenient as the 5th wheels.
Suggestions if you're going to be out for extended periods:
Get one larger than you think you want/need. You'll find if you think you can get by with a 22 ft when you're on the road for a while you'll wish you had one just a little bit bigger for the extra room. Those tin boxes can get pretty small after a while.
Make sure what you look at has plenty of storage. You're going to accumulate stuff as you travel. If you pack things tight you'll soon find it's a real pain digging thru a pile of clothes to get to that 1 pair of jeans you want, then have to put everything back.
If you get any unit with a slide out(s) spend some time in it with the slides in. Dealers show units with the slides out but what can you get to with the slides in. As you're traveling down the road can you get to the refrigerator or some of the cabinets if you stop for lunch or want a snack? Can you get to a closet in case you need a jacket or different pair of shoes? Can you get to the bathroom? Kitchen sink? Those little things don't seem so important until you're traveling, need something in the unit, and can't get to anything without opening the slides.
If you decide to buy used go over it very closely. Look for water leaks. Is the exterior delaminating? Interior walls and ceiling not warped or discolored. Any indication of caulking around windows that isn't factory caulk. Any discoloration or warpage in the storage compartments. Crawl underneath and look closely at the suspension for cracks in springs, hangers, bent frames, fresh welds or fresh paint covering repairs. If you look at a used unit and even tho you don't find anything but something just doesn't seem right then walk away. You don't want someone else's problems.
Remember that even with a new unit you're going to have problems that will need fixing. There will be the small water leak at a fitting. Or defective water pump. The refrigerator won't kick over and run on gas. The handle on the sewer dump breaks off and can't empty the holding tank. It's kind of like the old saying about owning a boat. "A boat is a hole in the water where you put money." Owning an RV of any type is the same. You just hope it's something small that you can fix on the road and not be stuck somewhere there's no competent repair shop or parts that you need.
 
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We had a new 32ft Fleetwod Flair. After seven years we sold it for about 1/3 of its original cost. That doesn't include the maintenance costs which were significant. We had many quality issues. Cruise failing, directionals failing, etc. Once, in the middle of an Indian reservation in SD, a heat shield (welded) fell off. That one I called Fleetwood on and they basically blew me off. Shower leaked from the git go, had it in twice before it was repaired. What ended it for us is we had a $2500 repair bill on the drive train. My wife suggested we sell it and get a Mercedes. I sold it but decided against the Mercedes as i'd had it with high repair costs. You will have reliability issues, unforseen expenses, and you will take a bath when you sell. Good luck!
 
If you have not used an RV before and want a taste before you buy, we've rented from Cruise America and El Monte with good results. They also offer one-way fleet relocation specials with the benefit of low cost and tailoring your route without having to first transit your RV there from your home.


These $9/day specials are a good way to test the lifestyle.

Relocating Out of Arizona, RV Rental Deals - Cruise America

Good luck with whatever you choose. :)

Edit: For decades we investigated the RV options, weighing the pros and cons. By the time we picked a favorite type, the slide-in camper for a pickup truck bed, we'd already gone to all the places we wanted to visit, utilizing tents, rented RVs, and hotels, so we never got the RV.
 
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My advice, like others have said, rent first.
Motorhome=money pit operating costs, maintenance, repairs

Are you considering being full-time RV'rs, as in sell your home?
If not, where will you park it when not in use?

We tried motorhome ownership, figuring in maintenance & repairs(but not operating expense) and storage and loss when sold, cost over $30,000 for 2 years. It was a nice late model big Class C that cost us $90,000 when purchased.
 
Thanks .. lots of input I appreciate!
We have camped in tents and polyps and pull behind trailers over the years
But last 20 years it’s been mostly hotels, resorts, cruises.
We know it is cheaper to just do hotels. If we were staying in the East we would surly do that.
Lots of input to consider here. I will go over a lot of these comments with the Mrs. I like the idea of renting for a decent length trip. Thst makes the most sense to start.
We are not selling the house. It’s actually a condo now. We down sized to condo do we could be free to come and go.


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