California Native American Tribe looking to make a bid to purchase Colt Firearms

[JJEH]

It could be bought out by China.

I'm sure there will be Chinese investors interested.

I bet the Chinese are interested. But I rather see that company in American hands!

I just don't get the connection between Native Americans/Colt and Israeli Company/Daimler

 

[e3mrk]

If They are on a Reservation it would drive the Kalifornia Goverment crazy as They would have little or no control over Them.

 

[jag312]

It would be nice if the new owners, whoever they will be, start making the Single Action Armys to the same level of quality and price as US Firearms. I will buy at least one.

 

[TTSH]

A couple questions. I wonder how the union rules apply to an Indian tribe who in a way is a sovereign nation, or something to that effect. Would, or could the tribes circumvent the unions and go non union? Or would better management do better, union or not?

The union is history regardless. The only thing of value to sell is the name and the intellectual property (whatever is not already in the public domain). No one wants the union or an old, antiquated plant in a very expensive, anti-gun state.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

A couple questions. I wonder how the union rules apply to an Indian tribe who in a way is a sovereign nation, or something to that effect. Would, or could the tribes circumvent the unions and go non union? Or would better management do better, union or not?

Good question. A lot depends on exactly what they are buying out of the bankruptcy. Trust me that it can get VERY complicated in Bankruptcy Court. Strip the union contract????? what effect will that have on the value of the estate, etc.....believe me it's wayyyyy complicated. That is more of an issue than sovereign nation status. There are many compacts that the nations enter into with the US that may also govern things like this. Great question with no easy answer. In addition to my many forays in the law I am also an indian nation judge for one of the local tribes-so I know a bit of the complexities of the nations' relations with the US. I also get a $.10 a gallon discount on gas at the trading post

 

[islamoradamark]

if colt goes overseas it can stay there im out

 

[peyton]

If the Indian Tribal land is a soveign nation, then do they have to follow the laws of the state on what they can manufacture? California is very against the EBR.

 

[LostintheOzone]

A couple questions. I wonder how the union rules apply to an Indian tribe who in a way is a sovereign nation, or something to that effect. Would, or could the tribes circumvent the unions and go non union? Or would better management do better, union or not?

It's my understanding that any state laws regarding right-to-work or mandatory union membership don't apply to the tribes. They can do whatever they want. The only gov't they have to abide with is the federal gov't and the treaties that they entered into. Tribes don't pay taxes to the state, state and local LEO's have no authority on tribal land, etc.

 

[LostintheOzone]

If They are on a Reservation it would drive the Kalifornia Goverment crazy as They would have little or no control over Them.

Yep, making AR-16's right in their backyard. Nancy Pelosi's head would explode.

 

[LostintheOzone]

The union is history regardless. The only thing of value to sell is the name and the intellectual property (whatever is not already in the public domain). No one wants the union or an old, antiquated plant in a very expensive, anti-gun state.

That's how I see it. Not much there to sell except some trademarks. Most of their products, if not all, have been in the public domain for a long time. The Chinese (Norinco) have already built a very good copy of a Colt 1911-A1. I shot one last week. It's actually a better clone of the original than Colt makes today. If you polished off the rollmarks it would be difficult to ID it from a 1940's Colt, it's that good.

 

[federali]

Return of the D Frame?

I'd love to see these revolvers return. I carried a Colt Detective Special for part of my federal employment tour and the gun gives you six shots to the S&W J frame's five shots in a slightly larger package that's easily concealed.

The D frames were available in 2, 3, 4, and 5" barrel lengths. Of course, I have to be different and suggest that whoever takes over Colt, consider a re-issue with a 2.5" barrel.

I also agree that Colt's future owners need to move the company to a gun friendly state.

 

[H Richard]

If they would buy the facility assets (mfg equipment) and the patents, only, and locate a new facility on tribal grounds, they would not pay any taxes, and wouldn't have any union employees. I would think they could hire quality employees and turn out quality firearms at a reasonable price. The modern Indian nations are not dummy's.

 

[the ringo kid]

Ain't it agin the law for them redskins to have guns??? Sorry, been watching too many westerns lately.

Naw, just fire water.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Yep, making AR-16's right in their backyard. Nancy Pelosi's head would explode.

I could definitely buy into a story with a happy ending.

 

[TucsonMTB]

Yep, making AR-16's right in their backyard. Nancy Pelosi's head would explode.

One can only hope.

 

[Wyatt p. Tato]

If I remember Samuel Colt went bankrupt after he developed the Patterson revolver?? Would have been interesting if Native tribes had purchased it then.

 

[snubbyfan]

I just think it'd be interestin' to see which direction they take the company.

 

[the ringo kid]

Ain't it agin the law for them redskins to have guns??? Sorry, been watching too many westerns lately.

Forgot to add, you can never watch ''too many'' Westerns.

 

[gman51]

I wouldn't even think they would move the Colt company to CA. I couldn't imagine any gun company moving to CA.

 

[Rustyt1953]

You'd think they would be close to terms by now.