Can Any New S&W Revolvers Be Purchased Without That Key Safety?

[Airborne423]

My Question: I was told by someone who tells me that S&W will now let you purchase an old but new model revolver, like they used to make in the past, without that extra key safety.
I was going to call S&W about it, but every time I call, I have to wait too long for someone to answer the phone.
Any thoughts about a purchase like this?

 

[KSDeputy]

Both of the new revolvers I bought in the last year, models 60 & 66 have the lock. It doesn't bother me, but I can understand why it does others. Did you google it?

 

[Muss Muggins]

There are several models that can be purchased without the internal lock, although I believe they are all internal hammer J Frames. Most notably, the 442/642. There are others, and I may be incorrect about the J Frame limitation. Others may be along to add more information before the thread is locked.

IBTL ! ! !

 

[Lou_the_welder]

They still make em. I got my 442 pro without the lock.

Yes. IBTL

 

[shocker]

If it has an external hammer, it has a lock.

 

[75Vette]

 

[ken158]

If it has an external hammer, it has a lock.

Correct. The factory will not give an inch even though the stockholders suffer... no IL only with internal hammer guns.

 

[Muss Muggins]

How do the stockholders suffer specifically from that particular minutia . . . ?

Correct. The factory will not give an inch even though the stockholders suffer... no IL only with internal hammer guns.

 

[Airborne423]

Too all, I thank you for the info. The 442 and the 642 S&W's are very hard to find in any of the gun stores in Illinois. I just did a Google, and I see that there is no "key lock" on the 442 or the 642. Does the 442, and 642 also come in a blue or a black finish? If the law permits S&W not to have a key lock on these 2 revolvers, then why not on all there revolvers again?

 

[Airborne423]

Oops My Spelling Is Off!

There should be Their for (S&W)

 

[Muss Muggins]

A: 442 is black, 642 is stainless.

2: There's no law governing the lock . . .

Too all, I thank you for the info. The 442 and the 642 S&W's are very hard to find in any of the gun stores in Illinois. I just did a Google, and I see that there is no "key lock" on the 442 or the 642. Does the 442, and 642 also come in a blue or a black finish? If the law permits S&W not to have a key lock on these 2 revolvers, then why not on all there revolvers again?

 

[Cal44]

The 640 (357 magnum) is another example available without the lock. Also 43C in 22lr. I think there is also a 22 mag centennial available without the lock, but I can't remember the model number.

Why not just buy used, if you don't like the models listed in this thread?

 

[Toddlars1]

Too all, I thank you for the info. The 442 and the 642 S&W's are very hard to find in any of the gun stores in Illinois. I just did a Google, and I see that there is no "key lock" on the 442 or the 642. Does the 442, and 642 also come in a blue or a black finish? If the law permits S&W not to have a key lock on these 2 revolvers, then why not on all there revolvers again?

Try Mega Sports in Plainfield...used to be my goto store back when I lived there..If you've never been you're in for a treat

 

[shocker]

Too all, I thank you for the info. The 442 and the 642 S&W's are very hard to find in any of the gun stores in Illinois. I just did a Google, and I see that there is no "key lock" on the 442 or the 642. Does the 442, and 642 also come in a blue or a black finish? If the law permits S&W not to have a key lock on these 2 revolvers, then why not on all there revolvers again?

Read about it here

NRA-ILA | Smith & Wesson Settlement Agreement

 

[Invictus357]

Here's a good one, sans lock.

Performance Center(R) Pro Series(R) Model 640 | Smith & Wesson

 

[Hondo44]

If the law permits S&W not to have a key lock on these 2 revolvers, then why not on all there revolvers again?

It's quite simple:

Those so-called 'hammerless' revolvers meet the safety standards w/o a key lock or they wouldn't be produced.

 

[S-W4EVER]

.. I think there is also a 22 mag centennial available without the lock, but I can't remember the model...

S&W Model 351C. I bought one for my bride.

 

[Grayfox]

I'm not sure if that is true anymore. Last year at a gun show I was looking for a 442/642. I found three. Two of them had locks. One didn't. I bought the one that didn't.
I'm thinking S&W got around to putting locks on everything.

 

[gwpercle]

There should be Their for (S&W)

You can edit your original post for spelling , just click on edit , correct the word and hit save .... I do it a lot because I was a poor English student .

 

[ken158]

How do the stockholders suffer specifically from that particular minutia . . . ?

I believe stock value would exceed current value (more sales) if the IL was not there or at least a version of all models were made without the IL for consumer choice. I know I only own 1 IL gun but would buy several more if IL was not there.