CAN I USE A TRICKED OUT GLOCK 34 FOR HOME DEFENSE?

[marathonrunner]

I recently purchased a M&P Compact 9mm for CCW but for home defense I was hoping to use my Gen4 Glock 34. I have a match grade Bar Sto Barrel, a Pyramid Ultimate Trigger 3.14 lb trigger pull, a Heavy Duty Stainless Dual Guide rod, for just home defense is this legally OK?

I heard for CCW that is a huge no no but for home defense I don't think there is anything wrong with a match handgun regardless. Do any of you agree or disagree? Again I know CCW this is a huge no no but for home defense I feel we should be allowed to use anything. Or do I need to buy maybe another Glock 34 and leave that stock?

 

[2hawk]

Sure, use the gun you are most competent with. No law saying you can't use a match gun for self defense. Of course, you may not like to have an expensive gun in evidence for an unknown period of time should the worst occur.

You should take a local CCW or NRA course to get answers to questions like this. Laws, and what you might call "prosecutorial climate" are different from one jurisdiction to another, so looking to the internet for good answers is akin to chasing rainbows looking for that pot of gold.

But if your just trolling, well, everyone's got an opinion, and many are glad to share theirs... for better or worse.

 

[sctman800]

I personally would not use a tricked out handgun for HD or CCW and for the same reasons. Mainly the reduced trigger pull weight would be my concern if used in a shooting. Jim.

 

[Arik]

There is no law against carrying or using one for home defense. Some people think that it is possible for the prosecutor to use that against you.

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[Badquaker]

A legit shoot is a legit shoot no matter what the gun is.
A bad shoot is a bad shoot no matter what the gun is.

seems simple enough......

 

[SMSgt]

I will use whatever is necessary for home defense and worry about a head-up-his/her-butt prosecutor later. If you can buy it in a store, it's not illegal.

 

[M29since14]

...You should take a local CCW or NRA course to get answers to questions like this. Laws, and what you might call "prosecutorial climate" are different from one jurisdiction to another...

Probably a good idea. Where I live, I would not be overly concerned about legal-beagle matters as long as the gun is legit (i.e., lawfully possessed by you). Your location may be different. Around here anyone involved in a shooting can expect some attention from the media, but the kind of stuff you mention wouldn't seem likely to even come to their notice - once they determined that you had used a Glock. (Glocks being "the last word" apparently, as far as modern journalists seem to be concerned. )

For my own piece of mind, I'd be a little concerned about the light trigger in what could be difficult/stressful (maybe even violent) conditions.

 

[Waywatcher]

I'd buy an additional G34. Not so much because of legality or lawyer concerns, but because of reliability and dependability concerns.

I've seen toyed-with Glocks choke and fail at an alarming rate compared to their stock counterparts. The Glock competition 4.5lb connector is plenty light, and the stock barrel plenty accurate.

 

[A10]

You can use a baseball bat for home defense if you want. It's your call.....you might take a look at some of Mas Ayoobs writings on using modified guns, he has spent a lot of time as a witness for the defense in self defense shootings.....

 

[feralmerril]

You might have heard that caution from someone who believes having a custom gun might sway a jury into thinking you are a gun nut and were hopeing to bag someone first chance you got.

 

[Doug M.]

Use whatever you shoot best. The trigger pull weight is really only an issue if negligence is alleged (Rule 3 - keep your blasted booger hook off the loud switch until it time to press it), and should not be admissible in an intentional shooting if anyone understands the evidence rules. (The firearm is NOT evidence in an deliberate shooting. It is at best malpractice, and arguably misconduct by an attorney to assert otherwise.)

A lot of what Mas wrote about is context driven, by being involved in cases where use of force and firearms in general are disfavored by local political climate. Remember that some of the improvements we have seen in understanding use of firearms in self-defense is a result of the work he was doing back in the 70s and 80s. Remember also that the social/political analysis is going to be different in a home defense shooting than one out in the street, even the legal differences are modest most of the time.

 

[aphelion]

The nice thing about a stock Glock is that they are relatively cheap and one is pretty much like another. As one poster pointed out, if you use a gun in self defense, it will be taken away from you for some period of time (could be forever some places). And odds are good it won't come back to you in the same condition it left. A lot of people talk about carrying one of their prized 2-1/2" m19s or whatever, a choice I think they'd come to regret if they ever had to use it.

 

[feralmerril]

If you used any cheap gun if it saved your life I suspect it would become your favorite. On top of that you would regret loseing it whether it was a python or a Hi point.

 

[forrestinmathews]

Make sure it runs defensive ammo. Make sure it runs defensive ammo.

Make sure....the spring loaded toothpick will make it go boom every time. The SD ammo may have harder primers.

It's a Glock 34. So what if you lose it!?! It's not a classic. They'll make you another one tomorrow and you can put all the **** that makes it awesome back under the hood. Yawn...

 

[WR Moore]

The OP doesn't list a location. There are locations around the country that do have minimum trigger weights allowable for CCW purposes, which the OP seems to note.

However, the question is home defense. You're well advised to leave defensive weaponry with stock specifications....unless you can show (and you'd best be prepared to) that those modifications improve your ability to use the firearm. Those modifications had best have been made by certified armorers. If you can document thousands of rounds of, say IPSC or IDPA competition, your familiarity with it could possibly offset downsides. As Mas notes, anticipate attacks and have counters prepared.

I'd err on the side of caution and maintain the defensive hardware stock or as close to stock as possible. I'm a bit leary of that "Pyramid Ultimate Trigger"...besides the weight, a good tort lawyer would have a ball with that.

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[Kilibreaux]

I recently purchased a M&P Compact 9mm for CCW but for home defense I was hoping to use my Gen4 Glock 34. I have a match grade Bar Sto Barrel, a Pyramid Ultimate Trigger 3.14 lb trigger pull, a Heavy Duty Stainless Dual Guide rod, for just home defense is this legally OK?

I heard for CCW that is a huge no no but for home defense I don't think there is anything wrong with a match handgun regardless. Do any of you agree or disagree? Again I know CCW this is a huge no no but for home defense I feel we should be allowed to use anything. Or do I need to buy maybe another Glock 34 and leave that stock?

You know, if someone comes into your house you have WIDE latitude when it comes to dealing with them! There is no "law" that stipulates this or that...as long as the overall circumstances support your position you'll be fine whether you use a Glock, or a Smith, or a home-built crossbow....self defense is self defense.

 

[forrestinmathews]

For just over twenty bucks Ghost makes a disconnector and spring kit that is awesome!! Dropped one in my G29SF and holy cow! Now that's cheap and awesome.

 

[shooter5112]

The OP doesn't list a location. There are locations around the country that do have minimum trigger weights allowable for CCW purposes, which the OP seems to note.

However, the question is home defense. You're well advised to leave defensive weaponry with stock specifications....unless you can show (and you'd best be prepared to) that those modifications improve your ability to use the firearm. Those modifications had best have been made by certified armorers. If you can document thousands of rounds of, say IPSC or IDPA competition, your familiarity with it could possibly offset downsides. As Mas notes, anticipate attacks and have counters prepared.

I'll wager that you can't find a justified deadly force statute in any jurisdiction in the country, that mentions anything about what is an acceptable weapon.

I'd err on the side of caution and maintain the defensive hardware stock or as close to stock as possible. I'm a bit leary of that "Pyramid Ultimate Trigger"...besides the weight, a good tort lawyer would have a ball with that.

How would a good tort lawyer have a ball with that? How would a trigger have any effect on justification?

 

[Badquaker]

A legit shoot is a legit shoot no matter what the gun is.
A bad shoot is a bad shoot no matter what the gun is.

seems simple enough......

repeated for those not paying attention....

The act will determine if it is a legitimate shoot or not.

Performing a "good clean finishing shot" on an incapacitated opponent, recording it, and bragging about it..... you will go to prison no matter what type gun you used.

Bullet choice is more likely to cause an issue than gun mods. Exploding rounds, flechettes, or rounds modified to be extra deadly would draw unwanted attention long before a lightened trigger.

 

[zoom6zoom]

As long as it doesn't have, "Smile, wait for flash" engraved on the muzzle and "Kill 'em all, let God sort them out" grips, I think you're fine.