Cannon EX20 Gun Safe? (4/25-delivery)(4/26-disaster)(5/21-success!)

[loutent]

I have about 6 rifles/shotguns and 8 handguns - but adding at a brisk clip. I currently cram these into a $100 locking gun cabinet but would like to upgrade to something more secure and keep the cabinet for ammo storage etc.

A few months ago there was mention here about this Cannon EX20 safe from Costco which is about to go on sale again on 3/11 for $580 delivered.

The specs sound pretty good. I know it's not the ultimate and that you should always buy bigger, but does anyone have this particular safe and how do you like it?

UPDATE (4/25/10): Got a call and set up delivery for tomorrow afternoon - I've been tracking this safe for over a week from CA - hope it's in one piece! I'll try to take a few pictures to post. Our driveway is pretty steep and long and it's curbside delivery - hope I can make a deal to get it into/near the garage. FYI ordered this from Costco on 3/19/10 - pretty fast service.

UPDATE (4/26/10): So the 18 wheeler pulls up in front of our driveway - driver greets me and we chat about all the safes he has delivered. Mine is in the front of the truck. He gets the forklift and tries to maneuver it to the lift gate - can't get both forks under the pallet because the pallet is too small so he's balancing the thing as he comes toward me at the lift gate. Now I should mention that our street is steep and the truck is parked with the cab on the upside. You can see what's coming (I sure could) - the safe separated from the pallet and fell flat on it's face - right on the front side where the electronic lock resides . "Guess you're refusin' delivery now" he says. "Guess so" I said. So there you have it - 6 weeks of waiting - pphhtt !! (or however you spell it). He made the necessary calls - I called Costco to see if I could re-order - they will get back to me if it's available.

Final Update! (5/21/10) Well my new Cannon EX20 was just delivered not 2 hours ago. The R&L driver was awesome - complete opposite of the first guy - helped get it off the truck and even helped place it near where it will reside in the basement (our basement is the same level as the garage.) He got a nice tip! As far as the safe itself goes, it appears very nice - certainly worth the money. Once I have more time, I'll try to post some pictures. I think this model might be discontinued now so I'm happy that I was able to grab one at a great price. Costco came through no problem and so did R&L.

30 MIN. FIRE SAFE
U.L.® RSC security rating
Color: textured black paint finish offers durable good looks.
Commercial grade Type 1 electronic lock allows user to change combination
# 1 warranty in the business
19.44 Cubic Feet
Dimensions:60” H x 28" W x 21" D includes handle and lock
420 lbs
Interior Features:

POWER BOX- built in electrical supply power box allows instant plug in of a dehumidifier rod or other electronics.
Automotive grade upholstered shelving and interior walls
Adjustable tracks allow shelves to be raised, lowered, or removed
Convertible interior allows for use in a split or all rifle mode
Holds up to 24 long guns in all rifle mode
Pre drilled for bolting to floor
Security Features:

1” thick composite door
Commercial grade Type 1 electronic lock allows user to change combination
UL ® RSC rated ( exceeds California DOJ requirements)
3 layers of Armor plate protect the lock mechanism
Spring loaded re-locker keeps safe locked even after lock has been removed
1” active locking bolts
Free repair or replacement of safe after burglary attack-see warranty for complete details
Fire Protection:

30 MIN. fire protection
Expandable fire seal helps keep out smoke and heat- seal expands up 12 times its size.
Free repair or replacement of safe after fire damage-see warranty for complete details.
Residential Limited Warranty:


Free repair or replacement of safe after Fire
Free repair or replacement of safe after Natural Flood
Free repair or replacement of safe after Burglary attack
# 1 warranty in the business

 

[Rule3]

I do not have the safe but also saw it in the Costco ad magazine we get. It appears to be as good or better than a lot of them out there. With free delivery, I am thinking of getting it also. I do not see how you can go wrong and it certainly is better that a gun "cabinet". Costco has the best return policy if for whatever reason you had to return it. (Not that, that would be an easy thing to return)

I just wonder what is included in delivery? To your front door or do they actually bring it in the house and put it where you want it??

 

[james56]

Im getting delivery Wed. for a Cannon Safria $882.00 Deliverd from Sam's online check them out.

 

[loutent]

I just wonder what is included in delivery? To your front door or do they actually bring it in the house and put it where you want it??

As I understand it, they provide lift gate delivery to curbside - the rest is up to you/me. I think it's very doable - I had a 550 lb cabinet saw delivered the same way a few years back and three of us rolled it up our inclined driveway on a dolly. Now we didn't have to take it up/down stairs, so that's another thing altogether.

 

[Lomax Anderson]

electronic lock has a 1 year warranty...if it goes out then you are the one responceable...I would get a dial...

 

[james56]

As I understand it, they provide lift gate delivery to curbside - the rest is up to you/me. I think it's very doable - I had a 550 lb cabinet saw delivered the same way a few years back and three of us rolled it up our inclined driveway on a dolly. Now we didn't have to take it up/down stairs, so that's another thing altogether.

For me it's inside frist door, then I have to put it where I want. But could pay extra to have it placed where I want it. But for the extra charge I'll Put my 2 older son's and son inlaw to work, to help their oldman out for a change.

 

[Crazy K38]

even to the curb is fine, a 12 pack of good brew motivates all my buddies everytime

 

[ElToro]

discussion of this safe on calguns
Costco Cannon Safe EX20 Sale $200 Off - Calguns.net

i just got my tax return funds and they had been earmarked for a safe. i was really leaning towards a AMSEC 6036 but now im torn.. i woudl prefer something even bigger. i can get a 60x36 in my closet and give up half my shirt space.i would prefer it in the house to teh garage and i would like more than 30 mins of fire. but at that price its hard to pass up. the only problem really is that i feel like i need a bigger one just to get all my stuff in there. i really want a 6000 pound 72x48, that i would feel ok putting in my garage

is this cannon safe US made ?

apparently most delivery guys will put in your house for a small cash honorarium and a soda for the road

 

[loutent]

Update - see original post

Delivery tomorrow - see first post for details...

 

[kennyb]

i took delivery of a thousand pound 6' winchester safe...using a heavy duty dolly three of us got it out of the pickup truck and into the house...we took our time and it was not a real big deal...i was surprised

 

[skyflyer]

electronic lock has a 1 year warranty...if it goes out then you are the one responceable...I would get a dial...

I think both the dial and electronic locks now have the same one year warranty for labor, parts are lifetime.

When I bought my safe electric lock 5 years labor
dial 3 years labor. Parts lifetime

No problems with the electric lock until last month.
Two months left on free labor warranty.
Cannon had me fixed in 4 days, The locksmith was a local who stated he fixes electronic locks 3-1 over dial locks. But he stated his safe also has a electronic lock for the convenience.

I don't think my next safe will have the electronic lock. Maybe keep some guns in each type of safe.
If two guns are better then one can the same be said for safes?

 

[Double-O-Dave]

Good afternoon,

I just got the call from the delivery people that my safe will be delivered tomorrow. I tried to ask if they could deliver it on Friday instead, as that is my day off. The dispatcher said no-go as they would then have to charge storage fees. The best I could do was get the latest delivery in the day (between 3:00p.m. - 5:00p.m.) with a 1 hour before they arrive phone call. This is my first real gun safe as I've been using a cheap "fire safe" for years to store my handguns. I'll clean out the closet tonight and try to move furniture out of the way tomorrow morning in hopes that I can pay the delivery guy to deliver the safe inside the house - wish me luck. By the way, for those who have had a safe delivery, what tip, if any did you give the driver besides "look both ways before crossing the street", "join the NRA", etc. Would $5 - $10 be okay?

Wish me luck,

Dave

UPDATE:

Well, delivery was without any problems. The driver and assistant were very nice and professional. They stated that they were only supposed to deliver to the curbside, but they would be happy to put it into my garage - which they did using their pallet jack. The box is plain, without any ads to indicate it contains a gun safe. My skinny 14 yr. old daughter and wiry 12 yr. old son helped me move the safe from the garage using 3/4 inch black iron pipes from bar clamps as rollers, transferred it onto a large, sturdy old furniture dolly, and finally onto some of the round, plastic furniture sliders you can get from Home Depot. As far as the safe goes, I'm a bit disappointed in the quality - this safe does not appear to compare to the Winchester safes that Costco had on sale - only 4 locking bolts, real el cheapo handles, and a lock that you must enter the numbers into slowly for it to work. This is my first real gun safe, so I'll chalk it up to a learning experience, and I do agree that any gun safe is better than none.

Best of luck,

Dave

 

[feralmerril]

When I had my huge heavy safe delivered they just rolled it threw the rooms on a heavy PC pipe, about 3 pieces, just kept picking up the last one that rolled free and setting it ahead. Worked real slick!

 

[loutent]

hope you have better luck than me!

Good afternoon,

I just got the call from the delivery people that my safe will be delivered tomorrow.

Wish me luck,

Dave

Good luck Dave - my delivery didn't work out - see my update on the original post

 

[Class III]

When I had my huge heavy safe delivered they just rolled it threw the rooms on a heavy PC pipe, about 3 pieces, just kept picking up the last one that rolled free and setting it ahead. Worked real slick!

The last time I moved one of mine I called a friend that is in safe and lock sales and asked him the best way to move a 1000 pound safe. He told me to use about two dozen golf balls in the same manner you used the pipe. Golf balls make it easier to go around corners.

Class III

 

[potthawg]

AAARGH!

UPDATE (4/26/10): So the 18 wheeler pulls up in front of our driveway - driver greets me and we chat about all the safes he has delivered. Mine is in the front of the truck. He gets the forklift and tries to maneuver it to the lift gate - can't get both forks under the pallet because the pallet is too small so he's balancing the thing as he comes toward me at the lift gate. Now I should mention that our street is steep and the truck is parked with the cab on the upside. You can see what's coming (I sure could) - the safe separated from the pallet and fell flat on it's face - right on the front side where the electronic lock resides . "Guess you're refusin' delivery now" he says. "Guess so" I said. So there you have it - 6 weeks of waiting - pphhtt !! (or however you spell it). He made the necessary calls - I called Costco to see if I could re-order - they will get back to me if it's available.

Sorry for your bad luck.
Why didn't he adjust the forks closer together so he could move it correctly? They are easily moved by simply raising the end of the fork up to disengage then sliding it in or out.
What was the name of the delivering carrier?
And lastly,before the accident,did he agree to put it in your garage?

 

[VM]

Sorry for your bad luck.
Why didn't he adjust the forks closer together so he could move it correctly? They are easily moved by simply raising the end of the fork up to disengage then sliding it in or out.
What was the name of the delivering carrier?
And lastly,before the accident,did he agree to put it in your garage?

Pretty sure it was a "fixed fork", manual pallet jack that the driver was using in the back of his trailer.
The fault was in the bone head that loaded the truck and didn't stack the small maufactures pallet on top of a conventional pallet so that the driver could get his pallet jack under and unload properly.

 

[loutent]

Why didn't he adjust the forks closer together so he could move it correctly? They are easily moved by simply raising the end of the fork up to disengage then sliding it in or out.
What was the name of the delivering carrier?
And lastly,before the accident,did he agree to put it in your garage?

Good question - he was back near the cab and I couldn't really see what he was doing with the lift. When he finally appeared from behind some other cargo, it was obvious that he was trying to balance it somehow using just one of the forks - in a hurry or something I guess. I mentioned we are on a steep hill - gravity took care of the rest. The carrier was R&L. I tracked the safe from San Bernardino CA for the last week. Before it fell over on it's face, it seemed fine (no tears, cuts in the cardboard packaging etc) - made it almost 3000 miles but not the last 200 ft! No he did not agree to put it anywhere but the curb and he really didn't have any equipment to move it up our inclined driveway anyway.

 

[sipowicz]

Good thing you weren't wearing a Susquehanna hat!

 

[neon8]

I'm sorry to hear about your mishap. I took delivery of the very same model from Costco about a month ago. They were the same carrier (R&L) delivered from San Diego to Alabama. The driver placed it in my garage, but my drivway was flat, so not much trouble there. He just had a pallet jack with him. They will have to give you a replacement at the carrier's expense. It is a pretty good deal from Costco. I had a friend help me move it up 4 steps into my house from the garage. Just take your time. It's not that heavy (make sure you bolt it down the floor afterwards). Good luck.