Cannot get barrel totally clean

I captured a bullet today, 6 jugs of water and then it hit the dirt backdrop and rolled down....so there are marks other than from the barrel.

I hope these pics are good enough. I have never examined rifling before, but it seems the grooves are a bit shallow?


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I sem to remember reading somewhere that 45 ACP grooves are only .002" rather than the .004" of most barrels, since the pistol was designed to be shot with jacketed bullets instead of the lead bullets in use at that time.

I still think JB Bore Cleaning Paste would get that crud out.
 
I used a Lewis lead remover on a 4" 686 and took out enough lead to cast a .22 bullet. Well, maybe half a bullet.
 
I'd be asking why is it happening in the first place. I'd slug the barrel to see what size it is. I'm wondering if your bore is undersized. I also would have called Sig by now.
 
Slug the barrel.....is that as easy as putting a dial caliper to a bullet?

I'm not going to call Sig just yet. Going to try one or two more different cleaners first.
 
Slug the barrel.....is that as easy as putting a dial caliper to a bullet?

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I'm not going to call Sig just yet. Going to try one or two more different cleaners first.

Dude, at this point call Sig.
 
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Found some stuff at the LGS that worked.....now this is the clean I've been after!!!!

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It smelled of something.....that cleaner was potent....gave me a slight headache.
 
I want to thank everyone for their help. Looks like I'll be using this stuff with this pistol at least. 20 strokes with a brush followed by a few patches on a brass jag was all it took. No soaking or anything like that.

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Barrel has been coming clean now, so happy about that!

As of today, the pistol has about 950 rounds through it. Had its first malfunction.... A FTFeed on the last round of the first mag.....Winchester white box. The rest of the 200 rounds were 100%.

Here's a short vid shooting a milk jug. :)

https://youtu.be/J8yR4Jw2Tw4
 
May I offer a suggestion. Expressions like: 'Lewis Lead Remover', 'JB Bore Paste', and 'Sweet's 7.62 Solvent', or good old stinky, 'Hoppe's #9 Bore Cleaning Solvent' all scare me!

If I went backwards, say, 30 years in my life, yes indeed, there was a time when I used these sorts of chemicals on my firearms; but, maybe, I finally got lucky. Maybe some of the older shooters in the various gun clubs I belonged to somehow managed to get through to me.

Today I carefully pretreat all of my bores with Sentry Solutions, 'Smooth-Kote' before shooting them. This stuff really works; and it makes bore cleanup a (literal) breeze!

General thoughts on this topic:

1. I've got two cans of Gunslick, 'Foaming Bore Cleaner' sitting on my bench. It works, but rather weakly; and, truthfully, I don't really like it and won't buy it again.

2. If you use a cleaner like Ballistol, or Break-Free CLP, then, the best results will always come after allowing your barrel to soak in it, overnight, before you start any serious cleaning.

3. I have never found any bore cleaning product that works better than Flitz Metal Polish. Other shooters used to caution me that Flitz would quickly wear out my barrels; but, in more than 15 years of using it, I've yet to see any evidence of this happening; and continued accuracy is right where I'd expect it to be. I love using Flitz! It's fast; it's relatively safe; it works very well; and it gets my bores spotlessly clean.

4. The best way to clean any bore over .22 caliber is to: LOSE THE SLOTTED-TIP, AND/OR JAG! Instead of using these antiquated devices wrap the cotton patches around the cleaning brush's head, instead. Then, use your proprioceptive reflexes to set up a rapid, 'all the way through, and all the way back' scrubbing motion in and out of the barrel.

I coat my patches in Flitz Metal Polish and change them after a dozen, or so, passes and/or after a discolored patch really starts to get black. (A black patch will still clean!) Three patches should get rid of most of the, 'heavy stuff'; and, afterwards, start cleaning up with dry white patches. (When they start coming out either light gray, or white, you're done!)

5. Do not oil the bore! Use Smooth-Kote, instead. (Sometimes I'll swab down a barrel with isopropyl alcohol before applying Smooth-Kote.)

A Smooth-Kote treated bore will clean up in less than half the time of an untreated bore. Yes, Smooth-Kote contains Molybdenum Disulfide; but it is, also, (what the manufacturer calls) 'passivated'; and it is NOT even the least bit hygroscopic BEFORE the gun is fired.

After the gun is fired? I don't know; but I always clean my guns within 24 hours after using them; so I have very little experience with moisture contamination inside a dirty barrel.

I've had several EDC barrels that I've treated with Smooth-Kote and carried for up to 4 months, sometimes in high humidity, before I finally used the gun. So far the bores have required no additional attention from me, and have remained in perfect condition.

(There's a treated G-19 on my desk, right now, as I type. Which reminds me: You'll also get a lot less friction working against your bullets when you fire, too.)

6. I always wear either Nitrile, or Latex gloves whenever I'm cleaning a gun; and I try very hard not to use any gun cleaner that is unmistakably carcinogenic like either flavor of automotive brake cleaner, or Eezox; or either the old, or the new formulations of Birchwood-Casey's, 'Gun Scrubber'.

At this stage of life I'm too old to play around with any of this stuff; and I keep all of it away from contact with either my skin, or my nose. I do a lot of gun cleaning; and I know, 'How' to keep a barrel spotlessly clean. For whatever it's worth, I've just shared many of my own cleaning 'answers' with the other members of this gun board. ;)
 
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Yikes! I use Eezox regularly, several times every week. Yes, I use ventilation, but I still get Eezox on my hands and breathe the fumes. Sometimes, a bit goes in my face and on my arms.

This is the first time I have ever read/heard that Eezox might be unhealthy.

Could you please cite the source of your information to the effect that Eezox is carcinogenic, Arc Angel? If it is carcinogenic, I shall immediately discontinue using this superior gun cleaning/lubing/rust preventative product.

Here's the MSDS for Eezox. I'll let you draw your own conclusions; but, for sure, NOT on my guns, and NOT in my home.

There are, also, numerous IGF threads on this subject. You can use the Google search engine to sort through them. (Remember: It's possible to ingest (small amounts) of both Ballistol and FrogLube without poisoning yourself.) According to our local hospital - and the brand new multi-million dollar Cancer Center they've just finished building - 'Cancer is currently projected to be the most prevalent disease of the future!' :eek:

I spend a lot of time around guns; and I find myself cleaning them often. In 1978 I lost, probably, the best male friend I've ever had. He died of mysteriously acquired Leukemia at Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in NYC. It took him many months to finally pass; and during his illness I frequently drove into the city to visit with him.

This experience changed me forever. I no longer take cavalier risks, nor silly chances with abstruse chemicals - Not on my lawn, not around my house, and certainly not on my guns. It's, also, been at least 15 years since I've cleaned a gun without wearing either Nitrile, or latex gloves; and, when I do, I make sure to have plenty of fresh air in the room.

If there's one mistake that I see people making over and over again it's that most people are completely oblivious to the SYNERGISTIC EFFECTS of all of the chemicals and chemical compounds with which we are, all, surrounded as we go through our daily lives! (The same thing is true for the foods we eat, too!) ;)
 
Tried several products....Ballistol in a spray can gets it clean every time with just a bore brush. Don't even have to let it soak. And don't need a to use a jag either. Works great in my other pistol's barrels too. Thanks everyone!!

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