carry expensive gun?

I consider the lives of my daughters, wife, family, friends, and my own to far exceed the value of any gun I might lose protecting those lives. Couldn't tell you what that line for expensive is, as that is personal to the individual as Ray and Rusty correctly noted. Fortunately there are plenty of dependable guns at almost every price point.
 
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Where expensive begins is irrelevant compared to how inexpensive a firearm can be before the quality/workmanship goes beneath the threshold for reliability, and therein lies the kicker... In the modern era of cost-effective manufacturing methods such as investment casting, MiM, and CNC Machining, a reliable firearm can realistically be had for right around $150.

Seriously, considering that a Heritage Arms Rough Rider .22WMR Revolver only costs around $150 in new condition — which are known to be plenty reliable — one can easily arm themselves on a budget.
Sure, some may argue that .22WMR is inadequate for self-defense, but that's besides the point. Besides, there are other pistols priced around $150-$200 such as the Hi-Point C9 which seem to be reliable firearms which will go bang whenever the trigger is pulled. Sure, it's big, heavy, chunky, and breaking one down for cleaning is rather complicated, but the point is, it will work.

Go above that into the $250-$300 price range and you can easily get something name-brand that's reliable if you shop around.

Keep in mind, these examples are all in regards to new firearms, so if you shop used then you can get some really good deals on otherwise excellent firearms at low prices if you shop around.
For example, in June I purchased a Police Trade-in Smith & Wesson M&P40c LNiB with 3 Magazines and Trijicon Night Sights for $269!

So what difference does it make where "expensive" begins if even bargain-priced firearms will get the job done?

Bottom line: if you want to carry a more expensive firearm, then have at it! It's your gun, you don't need validation to do so. However, aside from personal preference, there's no real benefit to carrying an expensive firearm because the law of diminishing returns tends to kick in long before you get anywhere near a price point which could even vaguely be considered expensive, and it ceases to be a matter of any consequence which gun you're carrying since all that really matters is that the firearm is reliable enough to actually fire when you need it to do so and can continue to do so long enough to stop a threat, which just isn't a tall order anymore.
 
Life's short, carry what makes you happy, and be sure that it works.

I've been carrying a pistol for many years, and I can count on zero fingers the number of times that I've been ordered to drop my gun on the pavement by an officer, or had my gun confiscated for evidence. Let's be real here….
 
What anyone else chooses to do is absolutely none of my business. If someone is concerned about having a gun confiscated should they need to use it in a defensive situation they should act accordingly.

As for me, if—heaven forbid—I need to use a firearm in self defense and come through it relatively unscathed I will consider myself to be very fortunate indeed. Having hit the figurative lottery, the police can keep the gun as far as I'm concerned. I have more than enough spares.
 
I approach it from the opposite end of this argument . . . as an instructor for years, numerous times I've had certain students ask me, what's the cheapest gun you'd recommend for self defense 'cause I don't wanna spend more than I have to . . . my reply was always the same - "I don't know - what's your life worth ?" :cool:
 
cracker57, "expensive gun" is kinda subjective. What do you consider expensive?

Regardless, the value of the gun will be the least of your concerns. Family heirlooms notwithstanding, I carry most of my guns without concern for cost.
 
cracker57, "expensive gun" is kinda subjective. What do you consider expensive?

Regardless, the value of the gun will be the least of your concerns. Family heirlooms notwithstanding, I carry most of my guns without concern for cost.

expensive to me is different than expensive to you.
I make x amount per year you make x amount per year. my bills are different than yours.
what is an expensive house, what is an expensive car?

Point here which has been made by many is carry what works for your situation, make sure it and you work together so it goes bang EVERY time.
another consideration not many have mentioned is make sure it is something you will carry, your SD gun does little good in the sock drawer when you are shopping
And again I DO NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE COST.
 
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I will admit to a certain desire to own a High Point C9.

The reason is I had a coworker who had one. He was not particularly bright and liked to mess with it mechanically. I had to help him reassemble it once. Despite him trying to totally disassemble and reassemble the gun still went bang. So for a basic reliable handgun the High Point C9 is the starting point. There are a lot of reasons to carry other guns but if the argument is how cheap in cost of gun to start with it is the High Point C9.
 
Well I already stated good reliable carry pieces. I'm not worried about when I may have to shoot someone. I hope I never have to. Luckily I live in a very good state for carrying. There are some places that are legal for me to carry where the powers that be may not feel the same where even a minor infraction may put you under scrutiny. Do we all know every law in every state we may carry in? Doubtful!
 
Just carrying anything every day will wreck it eventually. I've had my lightweight J frame cerracoated twice now. I havent had to mess with my lightweight Mustang. An inexpensive quality gun is as viable of a self defense tool as one from the colt or smith custom shop.
 
To me for a self defense scenario, only two issues matter, (1) Reliability and (2) "shoot ability. It MUST be dead solid reliable and I must be able to hit with it. Everything thing else, including price,is irrelevant. Find what works for YOU and stay with it, just Carry it. My Checkmate is easily the most accurate and reliable piece I own, but it never makes the carry rotation because it's big and heavy.��
 
To me for a self defense scenario, only two issues matter, (1) Reliability and (2) "shoot ability....
I think you meant, only three issues matter, (3) carry ability.

And yeah, I can shoot the heck out of my 4" or 6" 686. But neither are in my concealed carry rotation.
My shield 9 v.1 is, my PT111G2 is, my Hellcat is, my G19 is, my officers model 1911s are, even my PF9 is and even a model 60 on occasion. My model 69 would be if I could find factory ammo for it that I liked. I shoot all well and all are proven reliable but none do I shoot near as well as my 686s or 629 for that matter.

But those big hoglegs just don't carry concealed well at all, especially in hot and humid S. FL. Nothing I have would be considered an expensive gourmet gun. I just don't have one. Other than plinkers I never bought a handgun I didn't plan to carry. I guess I'm not really collectors association material.

Before anyone criticizes the size of my rotation list. Don't worry, it's not a daily, weekly or even monthly rotation, but I do change. Lately it's Hellcat during the week and a G19 on Sunday.

But whatever. Carry whatever floats yer boat. As long as it's proven reliable, you shoot it well and it's something that carries well enough that you'll actually carry it daily.
 
I approach it from the opposite end of this argument . . . as an instructor for years, numerous times I've had certain students ask me, what's the cheapest gun you'd recommend for self defense 'cause I don't wanna spend more than I have to . . . my reply was always the same - "I don't know - what's your life worth ?" :cool:

Okay, so now I'm curious... What is your carry gun?

Mind showing the class what your life is worth, teacher? :cool:
 
In the rare and hopefully never-occurring event that I need it, I will use whatever firearm I have confidence in, regardless of price consequences. That might be either an "inexpensive" or "irreplaceable" gun.

You only live once. I really can't put a price on panache.
 

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Okay, so now I'm curious... What is your carry gun?

Mind showing the class what your life is worth, teacher? :cool:


Depending on the season it varies. From a Glock 27 to a BHP to a 1911 compact. My answer to the situation that prompted your question was at times more 'tongue-in-cheek', especially if it was phrased as "should I get a .25 automatic for my wife ?" I've been known to tell them, "I've seen your wife - should be able to trade for something better than a .25". :D
 
The Colt Commander I usually carry has significant customization, making it a fairly pricey pistol.

It's old enough that some features now routinely found on factory models such as two tone frame and slide, extended thumb safety or great sights were features available only from a gunsmith. Some of the custom features such as aggressive checkering and accurizing are still available only as custom work as are the mastodon ivory stocks. Having my gunsmith reproduce the Commander would cost around $3,000.

The reason I carry a pretty expensive pistol is because I've been carrying it since 1980 and shoot it pretty well. Its purpose is self defense. I'm not concerned with what happens to it AFTER a successful self defense event. Id prefer not losing it to a law enforcement agency while an investigation proceeds but if that's what it takes to save my life, so be it. It's cheap at the price.

I could use a Tupperware 45 that retails for about $500, but those guns don't work as well as the Commander for me. I've tried them occasionally.



I've never understood folks who worry about what happens to their gun after a SD event. I can replace my pistol. All it takes is money. I can't replace my life.


...EXACTLY...

BOB
 
In the words of Bob "Superman" and Rpg - couldn't agree more. Maybe some some took my off hand remark to be snide, or elitist as someone who believes you have to spend a lot to get a lot. Rpg explains it very well - my exact point was if how little you can get by spending is your main concern and your yardstick, then I consider your priorities out of order - hence the "what is your life worth?" statement. (Though that anecdote played out more than once, I distinctly remember getting that question from one guy who showed up for the class driving a very nice little BMW sports car - priorities . . . . )

If financial circumstances dictate the best you can manage at the moment is a Jennings or an RG, but it works every time and you're willing to become proficient with it - you'll get no side eye from me. While we're on the subject, if you don't practice with it, can't hit the side of a barn if you're inside it but love to show off your four grand Nighthawk or Wilson custom carry gun . . . again, I would posit your priorities are out of order.

This is a gun forum. People like to talk up various related topics, joke and share insights and discuss their preferences. Every discussion doesn't have to turn into a urinating contest. ;)
 
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We shouldn't let "what ifs" dictate how we live our lives. Folks that live that way are miserable. Not to say we shouldn't prepare and be ready for life.

Rosewood
 
I think I finally came up with a scenario where I'd rather not have my 686 and carry something of less personal value.

That would be when flying with a gun. I don't trust TSA or baggage crews with my most prized gun, so if I ever decided I needed to bring one on vacation I'd probably buy something I was ok with being lost, damaged or destroyed. I just saw a video from Colion Noir on the subject which I'll link below. So there is one scenario where I'd actually not carry my best guns after all.

The Truth About Flying With A Gun - YouTube
 
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If you are involved in a legal self defense shooting if the cost of your firearm enters your mind you need to refocus. Hell is about to rain down on you and your gun will not matter.
 
I have seen the rain. A reliable cheaper gun works just as well. I don't want to give a good collectible piece to the investigators. I have a Wilson combat...the RIA will do the same job
 
I have seen many post about carrying a inexpensive gun because it will be confiscated if you ever have to use it.
How many take the price of a gun into consideration when deciding what gun to carry?

Lawyering costs $500+/hour for a self-defense case. So, count the price in lawyer hours.

After you get to several hundred billable hours, the eight hours your 1911 cost doesn't even register as an expense worth looking at. Maybe you'll get lucky and only spend $20k and never get to the Grand Jury. Perhaps the cost will matter then.

If you want to carry a fancy gun, then do so. If you don't care that much, then carry a production service grade gun like the M&P or Glock. Both types of gun will work just fine for the situation.
 
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I have guns inthe 3-4 figure range that I bought for using and price doesn't matter for them as far as carrying. I have guns in the same range that I bought for investing/historical reasons so I wouldn't carry them.
 
Just wondering. Do you tell your wife to leave her $6000 engagement ring at home just in case she loses it? What other things do you or you wife leave the house with that might cost more than your gun? It is it really a thing to even worry about? Sure you can insure some of those things, but some are still irreplaceable.

Rosewood
 
I have a 4 digit Centennial I carry in my pocket and a 3 1/2 in. 27-2 for a big gun. From reading some of the comments I think some people would consider them too expensive to carry.
If a bad guy kills me my pride don't want me found dead with a cheap gun. :D Larry
 
For many years my carry gun has been a small Galesi .25 Auto. In my front pants pocket. Lightweight and dependable, never needed to use it, hope I never do, but if I ever do, it will be enough.
 

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