Carrying a J frame without grips

[conn ak]

Have to be honest with you, I got the idea from a neighbor who used to be a Hartford cop. He said he carried a revolver without the wooden grips as a back up. Not only did it make it easier to carry between his belt and beer roll, he said it looked the part if it were needed as a "drop gun".

 

[SIG229fan]

This is a bad idea. For twenty bucks or so you can choose a new grip that will not only give you the grip you want but also ensure that you don't have to worry about malfunctions due to debris accumulating in the open butt of your revolver.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Originally posted by conn ak:
Can a Model 36 be carried free of complications without its factory grips? Only the mainspring would be exposed and it shouldn't create any problems, no? With my Kel-Tec being repaired (long story), I'm just not as comfortable pocket carrying my old Smith. I did it for years, but it hurts and is bulky. I fired off about 50 today without the grips on with good results.

Bad idea. Real pocket carry will result in lots of lint all over the gun. Without the grips, all that lint will get up in the action. Bad idea. Use grips.

 

[Spotteddog]

And Clemenza advises taping the trigger too, so no finger prints are left behind...
Put on some minimalist grips, or at the very least, some electrical or friction tape on it. Pocket carry even WITH a pocket holster is a lint trap like a clothes dryer. Unless you plan on using a compressed air source and a blow gun on it daily?

 

[handejector]

BAD idea.
Since the cyl is so much thicker than the grips, how much concealability is gained?

If the grip frame is taped, I have to wonder if an adrenalized grip could force the sticky tape against the mainspring, retarding movement enough to cause misfires???

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Originally posted by handejector:
BAD idea.
Since the cyl is so much thicker than the grips, how much concealability is gained?

If the grip frame is taped, I have to wonder if an adrenalized grip could force the sticky tape against the mainspring, retarding movement enough to cause misfires???

Best answer yet, IMO, and nearly shortest. How about some service (vice Magna) grips as illustrated above?

 

[Stophel]

Although many today will shudder at the idea, it's very easy to file down the standard magna grips that come on the gun.

 

[Gutpile Charlie]

COME ON, GIMME A BREAK! That is an extremely bad idea!

I carry a J frame in my pocket in a Bianchi Pocket Change holster with Pachymeyer Compact Pro grps. I couldn't ask for a smaller, more concealable package. Even so, my gun collects dust bunnies and all kinds of crap. Also, what about coins and car keys? It's a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by M29since14: ...This idea of not using stocks is not new by any means. SCSW3 (p352) shows that the U.S. Secret Service is aware of it,...

I don't see a single statement on that page that says the Secret Service ever used any revolver without Stocks of some sort. In fact, if you look at that picture you will "SEE" the Stock Locator pin is still present. So, I think you're "Assuming" something without any basis in fact.

As for the basic Idea, well, I think it isn't a viable one in any case and would be asking for trouble. And, any holster - including and IWB - would be better than just sticking it in your pocket. Just because you've done it doesn't make it a good idea.

 

[M29since14]

So, I think you're "Assuming" something without any basis in fact.

KK - I have been known to do that, from time to time. I beg your pardon.

One would think that if the SS were so weight conscious that they didn't even allow a front sight, a set of stocks definitely would have been taboo, but I will yield my "thinking" to your superior reading and reasoning. Maybe they didn't want the front sight for other reasons...

 

[handejector]

That gun shown on Page 352 is not the gun the text talks about. It has a Performance Center seal on the sideplate, whereas the text says there were NO markings on the sideplate of the prototypes.

It does, indeed, have a stock pin.

It also appears to have a high-gloss cyl, which indicates STEEL, whereas, the text talks about an aluminum cyl.

Soooooo, in my opin, that is NOT the gun they are even talking about.

 

[M29since14]

Ok. Ok. Anyone care to guess just what that trouble-making gun on p352 in fact really is?

 

[conn ak]

I think I'll put the grips back on, geez.

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by M29since14: ...Maybe they didn't want the front sight for other reasons...

During the time frame of that particular revolver - the Model 442 "Ultralight" - was "developed" the Secret Service was 're-inventing' the idea of using Point Shooting methods; therefore no Front Sight. And, I believe that these were also intended for last ditch Back-up use and when you're to the point of "screwing the gun" into the ear of the Bad Guy 'any' Front Sight would tend to get in the way.

As reported these never made it into production. My 'guess' is that they were likely equipped with the "Eagle Secret Service" grips which are shown on the Model 460 Performance Center gun on the next page.

 

[Outrider]

This is close to the worst idea I've heard thus far this millenium...and I've heard some bad ones.

 

[Beans]

Review:

Remove the grips
Remove the barrel
Remove the hammer spur
Remove the front of the trigger guard "FRIT'S IT"
Convert to DAO

It sure would be short and light

 

[wilshire1412]

I think I might be able to carry my 37 without the grips on it...shooting it without the grips is something I would not want to try even if a hoard of rabid chupacabras was after me.

 

[conn ak]

Originally posted by Outrider:
This is close to the worst idea I've heard thus far this millenium...and I've heard some bad ones.

You've led a charmed life if that's the worst idea you've ever heard, Skippy.

 

[OhDannyBoy]

Originally posted by wilshire1412:
...a hoard of rabid chupacabras...

wilsh -

Like your style, bro!

 

[gaucho1]

I think you will do fine.....

But I would use BBQ tongs to hold it.

Oh wait,please excuse,BBQ gloves...gloves