CHEAP GUN THREAD: Star BM 9mm.

Not much is interchangeable betw the BKS and BM.

The BKS is actually a shortened alloy frame version of the magazine safety Model B,,That being the Model BS.
(the 'S' on any STAR model designation notes a magazine safety).

Those Model BS pistols the BKS were designed off of were put into production starting in '68. The mag safety added to improve the # of points the pistols would get for importation to the US under the new 68GCA.
The Model A became the Model AS. There was also a Model U that became the Model US. This latter one is hardly ever encountered. It's a .30Luger version that was made for importation m ostly to countrys where 9mmLuger was banned from civilian use. Italy for one.

The BKS (Model B, alloy frame, magazine safety) shortened slide and bbl.
First STAR pistol to use a captured recoil spring and guide assembly. The slide stop, & thumb safety are Model B.

There may be some small parts/springs/ect that interchange w/the BM but I've never had the need to try and refit any from the two.

Early production BKS had the ;positive ignition' firing pin (protrudes from the breech face with the hammer down.
Later guns after approx ser#1,250,000 have the rebounding/Colt style.

The BKS was marketed in the USA as the 'STARLIGHT'.
GArcia early on ws responsible for most of the monikers for the STAR pistols I believe. The paperwork and boxes also carried the STAR factory Model designation.

Like the Model AS & BS,,the BKS had a brother Model UKS. A 7.65 Parabellum version for those who saw the need or could not have the 9mmLuger version.

The alloy frames are not designed for constant use like a steel frame no matter the mfg IMO. The STAR pistols are the same. For a carry, practice and occasional shooter they will outlast most people.
But I wouldn't take it to the range every week and throw 400rds down range with it and not expect it to show some wear.
I've never seen a 'broken' alloy STAR frame, but they are not that common anyway.

Once upon a time I had a "S" and a "SA" in .32 acp (7,65 Browning it was actually marked) and .380acp. (I have held but not owned a SS in .380 acp) I don't remember which was which (S/SA) they were exactly the same size. Looked like 3/4 scale government models.

I have also seen several As rechambered and stamped for .38 auto.
 
2152hq;thank you for your help.The BKS I have is marked STAR on one side and The Garcia Corp Wash DC on the other and seems to be well made and fine for occasional shooting.
 
"....Oh: besides the Guardia Civil, I read the Spanish Navy used Modelo BM. I don't know about the Cuerpo General de Policia..."

The Model BM contract pistols that went to the Spanish Navy had a special enameled round medallion in the RIGHT grip only. The round medallion had an Anchor and F on the left of it,,N to the right.
I think it stands for Fuerza Naval (Might have the spelling wrong),,Spanish Navy .
A contract of about 5K pistols, most, just under 4K being delivered in '83, and other than that the pistols were standard production AFAIK.

A large number of Spanish Police and Security agencys used the Model BM.
The Guardia Civil (GC), Policia NAtional (PN marked), SPanish Army (ET marked), Cuerpo General de Policia (CGP marked) There are others most likely.
Might have some of the spellings wrong but the markings are right.

Property marking usually found on both the slide and frame along with an inventory number/weapon number. The weapon numbering system used both by the SPanish military and by their police and security depts.
That weapon number is often mistaken for the serial number which is either on the butt of the frame or on the side of the frame after it surpasses 1,000,000.
CAI imported a large number of STAR A,B,B Super and others and used the inventory number as the ser# in selling them.

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The Model S is an interesting pistol. It goes all the way back to the mid 30's.

The Model 'S' you had was the .380 caliber version. That actually came out first.
You probably had an earlier mfg with the first style slide address that said Bonifacio Echeverria Eibar (Espana)
Cal. 9m/m-390 <<STAR>>

A Model 'SA',,there is no Model SA, but the 32cal version is the Model SI.
The slide address used on those when they came out in the 40's (and on the 380 S Model) has:
STAR Eibar, Espana S.A. cal 7.65m/m
The S.A. often mistaken for a Model designation, it's an equivelent of 'Inc.' I'm told or something close to that.

Anyway the Model S is 380
Model SI is the same gun in 32acp
They added a magazine safety in '68 to try and get import approval to the USA.
An earlier Chilean Navy contract in '64 or '65 for 300 Model SI pistols had called for one so it wasn't something new to figure out. With it, the Model S/SI still didn't meet import points.

Mag safety designation is 'S'
So Model SS is a 380 w/mag safety
Model SIS is the same gun w/safety in 32acp.

These were used all over the world by different countrys and Police depts.
Chilean Navy, Portuguese Navy, Jordan, W/German Police, ect as well as the Spanish Army, Navy and AirForce and Police and security.

Most of the early STAR Spanish issue pistols were returned to STAR in the late 80's early 90's as part of a deal in which those agencys would buy the new M28/M30 STAR pistols.
STAR refurb'd many of those Model S, SI, A, B A&B Super pistols and they were sold on the USA market. MAny were just inspected, reboxed and resold. Some great values in that lot!
The S/SI did not ever make the ATF point system in '68 dispite their addition of the mag safety.

Interarms added a small adj rear site and thumb rest grips to the small Model S and SI to make them importable this time around.
Most all the InterArms imported S & SI pistols from the 90's that were refurbished/refinished were put up in boxes and supplied with manuals stating they were SS and SIS pistol (magazine safety).
Didn't matter if the mag safety was present or not.
So you'll find those in both versions and with the very late slide roll marking as they scrubbed the orig markings in refinishing them.
 
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I have a PD LNIB, paid $250 for it 30yrs. ago. I pull it out every once in a while. I think Star quality is good on most later models. I believe the Firestar was well received in the early 90s. Been looking for a Super B, hard to find in CA. I dont think I can get a surplus BM due to the roster but would like one.

P.S. Mordo...go buy that PD
Also I think I got PD buffers at Jack First(?)
 
"I figured I'd class up the place a little.

These are all over the place now for about 230 bucks. I traded for this one, so I have a whopping 100 bucks in it. Either way = cheap gun.

Best of all, they thoughtfully included my initials:"

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Your middle initial wouldn't happen to be K, would it? :D
 

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It shot to the left at 50 feet, the max length at the indoor range. I could feel the hammer touch the web of my hand, but not enough to leave a mark.

Don't forget to do a Hammer Bob on it ;)
Won't take much to make a real difference...1/8th of an inch should getRdone
 
Picked up one today at the Pasadena gun show for $240. Seems very nice for the price. All was well until I check the price on extra magazines, they want $40-60 each for them online. Hopefully it is fun to shoot!
 

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