China has cut off Nitrocellulose and Antimony to the U.S.

[jsfricks]

From the article below-
“ The recent decision by China to halt the export of two critical components —nitrocellulose and antimony— has raised alarms within the U.S. ammunition manufacturing industry and among defense experts”.
Ammo and components will be hard to get in the near future.
Thoughts?



China's New Export Restriction Choke Hold on Critical U.S. Ammunition Components, Are You Prepared?

 

[TJm15.38]

I'm not panicking and not about to go out and buy a bunch of ammo and components that I don't need. Everytime we get a tidbit of news alluding to an ammunition or component shortage, the whole shooting community goes nuts and people start hoarding. I have what I need; no reason to panic buy and make the situation worse.

 

[Mark Pilcher]

Good idea from China! Bring production of these critical components back to the US!

 

[mojave30cal]

SG Ammo mentioned that back in the spring. The latest email
I got today said ammo sales are slow and profits are razor
thin. I picked up some 7.62X39 the last two months from
them.

 

[stansdds]

Good idea from China! Bring production of these critical components back to the US!

I agree, but it would take many years if construction of the facilities and mines were to be allowed.

 

[fordson]

Concur. Re-vitalizing an industry would take time, but with the proper priorities could be done

 

[CH4]

Jack up tarriffs on everything Chinese. The world needs to incrementally reduce its dependency on Chinese goods, until its zero.

 

[taz666]

Just stop buying their junk will hurt them worse.

 

[skwchock]

American companies have "outsourced" everything to China including medicines. This is so wrong. And those American companies say that they are doing it to keep prices down. That is BS. They are only doing it to keep their profits high. Critical items should ALWAYS be kept IN HOUSE and any outsourcing should be denied at all costs.

 

[gwpercle]

China is Not our friend ...
We need to divest ourself from dependance on them ...
Being dependent on China for anything is Bad Policy .
They wish to destroy us ...
Gary

 

[mtgianni]

Antimony mines were idled in the late 90's or early 00's IIRC in the SW. Nitrocellulose is made from easily found materials. It amazes me that people think we can outsource production with no risks.

I guess if you really believe we are sitting around a world campfire singing kum by ya it is all good.

 

[bobsguns]

Good idea from China! Bring production of these critical components back to the US!

Except the EPA & OSHA will crawl all over them with a fine tooth comb looking for the slightest infraction to shut them down "because guns are icky".

 

[bobsguns]

Just stop buying their junk will hurt them worse.

Tried buying a toaster lately? Coffee maker? Or any of a host of other items? Almost impossible to avoid chinese products these days.

Of course when China is paying the POTUS' son millions of $$$ a year, that should come as no surprise.

 

[bobsguns]

American companies have "outsourced" everything to China including medicines. This is so wrong. And those American companies say that they are doing it to keep prices down. That is BS. They are only doing it to keep their profits high. Critical items should ALWAYS be kept IN HOUSE and any outsourcing should be denied at all costs.

CEO's want that bonus $$$$. They all cry about being "beholden to shareholders" & thus HAVE to cut costs in order to keep their bonus checks coming.

If your dividends dropped from $100 a share to $1, what would YOU do? Be honest about it.

 

[Devildog1]

CEO's want that bonus $$$$. They all cry about being "beholden to shareholders" & thus HAVE to cut costs in order to keep their bonus checks coming.

If your dividends dropped from $100 a share to $1, what would YOU do? Be honest about it.

Buy gold and silver, the original currency of the world.
Stocks, bonds and all fiat currency will just be junk.

 

[DWalt]

As I understand it, there is currently only one USA producer of NC, which is the Radford Army Ammunition Plant in Virginia. And all of their production is for military use. Radford produces mainly large caliber propellants and rocket propellant and also supplies NC to St. Marks in Florida. That is where small caliber military propellant is made. Also, all TNT production is at Radford. Most all powder for other uses comes in from foreign sources. When I worked at Hercules many years ago, I was a frequent visitor to Radford, as Hercules was then the operator.

The largest single propellant plant was the Indiana Army Ammunition Plant, across the river from Louisville. They made everything from rifle powder to 16” powder for the Navy. It was shut down and largely dismantled after the Vietnam War. During WWII, at its peak it was making a million pounds of propellants PER DAY on six parallel production lines. I was in charge of the environmental cleanup project there about 15 years ago.

 

[Super Trucker]

Jack up tarriffs on everything Chinese. The world needs to incrementally reduce its dependency on Chinese goods, until its zero.

This!

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[Model29-26.5]

Everything will be fine.
It always has been and with a few ups and downs it always will be.
Don’t panic.

 

[SGT ROCK 11B]

I think we do to much business with China, India, Russia, Ukraine and others.

But the 1%ers are getting rich and richer.

 

[Echo40]

Good thing I stocked up on the last bit of ammo I really needed just recently...

It's funny, I kept having this nagging feeling that I should do so sooner rather than later, so ultimately I caved in an ordered some bulk 5.56 M193. Good thing I did, because as if folks weren't already going to start hoarding ammo before the election, this will drive it over the edge.