Cistern?

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So I've been looking around at some rural land (NOT in AZ) upon which to build what would likely be my final home (I'd call it my retirement house, but I'm on the work-until-I-die plan). From what I understand, in a few of the prospective areas getting a productive well at an economical depth is a gamble -- maybe 50/50. As a result, quite a few folks opt to simply go with a cistern, which they either replenish themselves from a tank in the bed of a pickup that they fill at a watering station or by having water delivered. Prices actually seem pretty reasonable. Any forum members that have experience with such a well-less setup who wish to opine? Is it a little inconvenient, or a major PITA? Would you do it again?
 
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We got a bunch of folks here in NM who do that and they mostly all use above ground tanks.
They are relatively economical, sanitary and easy to install.
 
We got a bunch of folks here in NM who do that and they mostly all use above ground tanks.
They are relatively economical, sanitary and easy to install.

Where I'm looking it looks like maybe code requires them to be underground.
 
In my childhood home, we had no municipal water supply or well. We did have a buried cylindrical concrete cistern tank, fairly large, but I don't know how large. Maybe 5K gallons. House roof drained rainwater into it through a sand and charcoal box filter and it had an electric pump and pressure tank to supply the house. Even so, my father had to have water delivered by truck fairly often. In the community where we lived, I think nearly all the residents had cisterns also, many had outhouses, but we had a septic tank. We were very frugal on water use. We finally connected to a water system when I was older.
 
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You will need a plan for when the power goes out, to power the pumps. Otherwise no electricity no water.

Our plan was that the cistern had a hand pump, one of those with a chain and rubber cups, and you turned a crank and filled a bucket. Don't remember what they were called. I guess today, you would have a standby generator.
 
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Unless you position it above the house if the geography allows.

The one house I lived in, it was more built into the wall. I would think the weight of it being above the house, would be prohibitive. But I could be wrong.

Anyway it was a bit of a pain because of frequent power outages, and a gas generator that need to be hooked up and maintained every time.
 
The one house I lived in, it was more built into the wall. I would think the weight of it being above the house, would be prohibitive. But I could be wrong.

Anyway it was a bit of a pain because of frequent power outages, and a gas generator that need to be hooked up and maintained every time.

When I say above the house, I mean built into a hill or high ground above the house.
 
When I was young a neighbor had a cistern. We did have city water but all the ladies in the neighborhood got water from the cistern to wash their hair. It was supposed to be softer.
The water tank for the town was up on high ground and there was an huge open well(covered by a structure) from which water was pumped to the tank. They finally got a sanitary water system years after I left.
 
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My first house had 1/4 of the basement as a cistern. All the house gutters were directed there. In Winter or dry spells we had to get a water truck deliver some.

The basement was always damp and musty. We had to filter all the water. Sometimes we would run out until the truck arrived.

Don't get me started on septic tanks because that is a worse subject.

When the town finally put in a city water line down the street, everybody cheered.

That was my learning house. Never again will I build unless water and sewers are already there.
 
Good God yeah! Don’t put it in your basement!
If your rules don’t allow outside above ground, consider putting it in a out building, like a shed, barn, garage.
Any elevation advantage above your house will provide some flow.
Gravity can be your friend!
 
I have a friend from Down Under, he lives in suburban Canberra. He told me most residents had a water tank, outside, with the bottom about 4 feet above the top floor. This allowed gravity flow to second floor sinks and toilets. They used Bromine instead of Chlorine in their swimming pools, so I assume they used it for water sanitizing also. The tanks in that area were kept full by a regular rainfall, but 10 days was considered a drought! I believe the houses were connected to a city sewer system in the 60's, but "Free" water was the norm in that area.

My grandfathers farm (North Central Ohio) had a cistern for the house and a 250' deep well he had installed in the late 50's. The cistern was only a few thousand gallons and rain fed, and the barns had a similar system. But USDA grading codes changed and to have Grade A milk you had to have a adequate well or on a water line. You also had to have a refrigerated stainless bulk tank. (and so ended the era of the Milk Cans and water chillers) The Amish are allowed deasil power for both but if on any other system their milk will be Grade B and that is why there is so much Amish cheese.

My farm house (built 1879) came with a cistern and was around 500 gallons, and was roof fed. During pre move in remodeling, I opened the cover, dropped in a sump pump emptied it and started plumbing repairs. The 15 or 20 small animal skeletons convinced me to concentrate on the 19 foot deep well instead! I had a 120 gallon pressure tank & a 120 gallon "Static" tank (allows the choline time to work).

During one of the major power outrages, I took the well power line and installed an outlet and plug connection just outside the breaker box. This allowed me to run a generator extension cord to the basement for about a half hour to flush the toilets and refill the pressure tank. (we usually took showers at the gym anyway)

Just some of the joys of rural living!

Ivan
 
When I was a kid we didnt have town water and living on the ocean all the wells were brackash, we had a cistern it was a big cement tank, it was only used for washing, my father would bring drinking water home from his store in gal jugs, once in a while we would have a tank truck come and dump water in the tank.

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a major PITA?

This!

You may get tired of hauling in water pretty quick. Or having it hauled in. And the expense will begin to annoy you regardless of how small it is.

I grew up in a rural area and experienced that along with a septic system. Now, that was decades ago and thank goodness septics have improved but so have the federal or state or local EPA rules and enforcement.

Convenience of things like "city" water and sewer are worth every penny to me.
 
Cisterns ARE a PAIN!

Had one at old farmhouse...never again...caught rain water from roof...also had water hauled in...(you WILL at sometime or another run out of water)... had to get down in the cistern twice a year to CLEAN it...once you see what accumulates down there you will NOT want one...if you are going to build in the country go where there is plenty of GOOD well water OR where there is RURAL Water supplied...
 
I guess I must be the redneck on the forum, as I have had a rain catch Solution at my property for about 7 years now and it has been pretty flawless. Currently have a 2500 gallon tank, but have plans to go to 5000 gallons shorty. If I were to live here full time, I would probably bury a 10,000 gallon tank. Positive: if you are a coffee lover, you will have the best coffee of your life. Negative: really soft water.

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1200sg ft metal roof gets 1" of rain and it gives you 100cu ft of water. 1 cu ft of water is 7.5 gallons. 1200sq ft= 750 gallons per inch of rain. What is the average rain fall in the area and how much roof do you plan on having.

When I lived in Ketchican AK lots of people just had metal roofs and cisterns, but then it averages 160 inches a year there. Yup 13 ft a year.

But if your area averaged 20 inches thats 15,000gallons of just a modest 1,200 house. Now add a nice little 3600sq ft shop and you have another 45,000 gallons for 60,000 total
 
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