Claim: Cadaver dog "hints" to body from 1975 - Bravo Siera ? ?

[Super Trucker]

If you need a pool dug, just have a homeless person class hoffa is buried in your backyard.
SMH.
I'm not sure how many times he has been found here in Michigan at sites that needed buildings torn down.
The last I recall was an old barn, it was tore down and hauled away then several holes were dug and nothing found. The property owner got free barn removal, so it worked out for them.
I've been a teamsters member and the talk in the Detroit local was that his son was involved.
I say who cares, the teamsters are a joke these days and its been so long, it really doesn't matter anymore. Many of those supposedly involved are dead or dying, use the resources for something that matters.

 

[Rustyt1953]

I'm gonna make it easy for a dog by having the crematorium fry me in lard.

 

[brendonjames65]

Agree that dogs work.

My doubt is because of almost 50 years/

How old of a trail can a Blood Hound track ?

This is from the AKC:

Dogs are able to pick up a scent within minutes of death or years later. In some studies, they have found 25-year-old skeletonized remains, buried in an area of 300 by 150 feet. Hurst works with a volunteer group, NecroSearch International, Inc., that brings together specialists from many disciplines — everything from botany, anthropology, and entomology to computer analysis — to help law enforcement solve decades-old cases. Canine sniffers are important in many of these searches.

I believe it still possible a bloodhound could detect a cadaver scent under those circumstances but I freely admit I don’t have a scientific background regarding this but others do that suggest it’s possible.

 

[Mule Packer]

Brendonjames65 is right. Apparently a dog's sense of smell is 10,000 to 100,000 times more acute than a human's, depending on the breed of dog. As Brandonjames65 pointed out, one of the reasons a dog has a much better smelling ability than we do has to do with the number of scent receptors: For every scent receptor a human has, a dog has about 50.

A guy in our town has a pack of hounds and helps the Department of Natural Resources tree and collar mountain lions. As he explained to me, when a human smells a hamburger, they essentially get one smell. On the other hand, when a dog smells a hamburger, its olfactory system categorizes each individual smell, i.e. it smells the burger, the tomato, the lettuce, the pickles, and the special sauce...all separately.

So, bottom line, when these trained canines tell us there's something worth paying attention to, I'll tend to go along with them.

 

[Doug M.]

Detect a long dead cadaver? Yup. Very much plausible. Hoffa? Fat chance.

 

[sigp220.45]

I worked a deal where a couple killed their baby and dropped him into a commercial crawfish pond. We didn’t know which of the many ponds to check so we had a handler take her cadaver dog out in a boat. It alerted in the middle of the third pond they checked.

We confronted the woman with the info about which pond he was in and she confessed and of course implicated the guy who confessed and implicated her.

They drained the pond and no baby. The people that worked there weren’t suprised. Apparently the dog hit on the residue of gas that had bubbled up.

There was some other evidence but I think they cut her a deal and settled for him. I was just there to help with the evidence recovery.

I didn’t eat any crawfish poboys for a while after that.

In the OP’s case, I bet on the dog.

 

[Tom S.]

Could be a body but it's not Jimmy's.

 

[smoothshooter]

Three things that will never be found:

1. Jimmy Hoffa’s body
2. The Oak Island treasure
3. The identity of D.B. Cooper

But that doesn’t impair the efforts of those intrepid souls who continue looking and making TV documentaries about them and cashing in on the profits.

The treasure of Oak Island is all the money made through promotions and syndication of broadcast rights for the show’s participants.
Those guys should all be multimillionaires by now.

 

[smoothshooter]

I was watching a fairly current Civil War history show a couple of weeks ago where one of the hosts claimed a cadaver dog alerted on a place where some Mississippi State troops were rumored to be buried along a fence row on a farm located on the edge of the Gettysburg battlefield. The dog was brought out a couple of years before that episode was filmed.

There were dead soldiers, civilians, and horses buried all over that battlefield, most in unmarked graves.
I know some of those dogs are pretty good, but in this instance I think it is a bit of a stretch as the battle was in 1863.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

If you need a pool dug, just have a homeless person class hoffa is buried in your backyard.
SMH.
I'm not sure how many times he has been found here in Michigan at sites that needed buildings torn down.
The last I recall was an old barn, it was tore down and hauled away then several holes were dug and nothing found. The property owner got free barn removal, so it worked out for them.
I've been a teamsters member and the talk in the Detroit local was that his son was involved.
I say who cares, the teamsters are a joke these days and its been so long, it really doesn't matter anymore. Many of those supposedly involved are dead or dying, use the resources for something that matters.

As Supertrucker posted, most of the players in this particular drama have all answered for it to a higher authority just as in the JFK assassination.

Hoffa was born in 1913 so that would make him a century and a decade old so the chances of him even being alive at this point would be..."questionable".

Hoffa was liquidated when he disappeared...his body will never be found. Think of it along the lines of D.B. Cooper...he disappeared without a trace too and was never located (although I think a lot of his money was found in the woods IIRC ).

 

[SMSgt]

My childhood dog Elmer, a Black & Tan, couldn't trail a dead rabbit lying three feet away, but let one chunk of Gravy Train hit the dog bowl, and he was there.

 

[Rpg]

I’ve seen dogs do amazing work in terms of locating their quarry.

The first bloodhound that gained widespread recognition here in the Denver area was Yogi: a bloodhound privately owned by a LEO who was a client of mine.

In 1993, Yogi not only located the body of a missing 5 year old girl (stuffed in a bag) but Yogi backtracked from the location of the body to the bad guy’s apartment! Reconstructing the bad guy’s movements, turns out Yogi tracked him through a change of vehicles over 10+miles. The dead girl was Alie Berrelez. A foundation commemorating Yogi was established which posted large billboards commemorating Yogi.

Yogi did the same magic in the case of a woman who had been kidnapped from one of our mountain casinos. Yogi backtracked that bad guy for miles to his apartment in Denver. (If I remember correctly, the bad guy turned out to be the son of a high ranking Denver LEO). Truly an amazing bit of work!

After seeing what Yogi did, I don’t doubt a story about a bloodhound locating a many year old cadaver.

 

[Greyman50]

LOL, this guy could smell a Zaksby’s 20 miles away for their grilled chicken breast….

 

[Fishinfool]

When I used to take my German Shepherd Jake to the vet's, I usually passed by a McDonalds on the return trip. Always stopped and got him a plain double cheeseburger.

Then, one time coming back from the vet's I was running late, and drove by that McDonalds without stopping. You would have thought someone hit him with a hot poker the way that dog carried on. I do believe he smelled it as we drove by at 55 mph.

As soon as I turned around, I swear he had a smile on his face. Yea, he got his burger.

Larry

 

[mattallamerican]

I'll bet Howard Carter had a dog.

i bet most folks dont no who howard carter was

 

[lihpster]

The treasure of Oak Island is all the money made through promotions and syndication of broadcast rights for the show’s producers.
Those guys should all be multimillionaires by now.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Alk8944]

I guess we will see if permission is ever given to excavate the little league ball field. Until then any speculation or arguement about the ability of a cadaver dog to sense the presence of human remains under the given circumstances is a total waste of breath and band-width!

 

[twodog max]

I would have to see that to believe it.
As far as Hoffa goes I figure those responsible made extra sure he would never be found. He could easily be on the bottom of one of the great lakes sealed in concrete having disappeared from Detroit

 

[Skeet 028]

That dog is gonna have to smell 50 year old shark poo at 4000 ft deep.

 

[mtgianni]

Brendonjames65 is right. Apparently a dog's sense of smell is 10,000 to 100,000 times more acute than a human's, depending on the breed of dog. As Brandonjames65 pointed out, one of the reasons a dog has a much better smelling ability than we do has to do with the number of scent receptors: For every scent receptor a human has, a dog has about 50.

A guy in our town has a pack of hounds and helps the Department of Natural Resources tree and collar mountain lions. As he explained to me, when a human smells a hamburger, they essentially get one smell. On the other hand, when a dog smells a hamburger, its olfactory system categorizes each individual smell, i.e. it smells the burger, the tomato, the lettuce, the pickles, and the special sauce...all separately.

So, bottom line, when these trained canines tell us there's something worth paying attention to, I'll tend to go along with them.

Then you consider that a wolf has a nose and included sensory tissue that is up to 50% longer than a German Shepard, you see what a hunting machine they can be.