CMP 1911 news

[Grayfox]

Round 4 starts today. Applications will be taken until Sept 30.
CMP has also changed rules to allow a total of 2 guns per person. One gun per year and two in your lifetime. So if you previously bought one of these pistols, you can now buy one more.

 

[hkcavalier]

That's good to hear. Back in '19, early in Round 1, I received a service grade only to find out the cheaper rack grade guns, while a bit rougher, were far more original than the re-Parked and overhauled piece I was sent.

 

[Claymore33]

Do any of the parts match ?

 

[Grayfox]

Do any of the parts match ?

Highly unlikely. The vast majority of these pistols are mix-masters straight out of the Arms Room. Some have been arsenal rebuilt and will be refinished.

Any all correct pistols will probably be sold at auction for much more than the standard prices.

 

[ladder13]

Let me back in.

 

[AJ]

Do any of the parts match ?

Highly unlikely. The vast majority of these pistols are mix-masters straight out of the Arms Room. Some have been arsenal rebuilt and will be refinished.

Any all correct pistols will probably be sold at auction for much more than the standard prices.

You stand a better chance of winning the Power Ball than getting an original M1911/M1911A1 from CMP. Parts have been changed/rebuilt and during cleaning details parts were mixed up. The pistols still worked so who cared? They were not thinking of a collector then, only guns that could work when needed.

 

[LostintheOzone]

That's good to hear. Back in '19, early in Round 1, I received a service grade only to find out the cheaper rack grade guns, while a bit rougher, were far more original than the re-Parked and overhauled piece I was sent.

I'm probably going after my second one also. Like you, I received a service grade which was fine but a rack grade looks more along the lines of what I wanted.

 

[AJ]

Do any of the parts match ?

That's good to hear. Back in '19, early in Round 1, I received a service grade only to find out the cheaper rack grade guns, while a bit rougher, were far more original than the re-Parked and overhauled piece I was sent.

I'm probably going after my second one also. Like you, I received a service grade which was fine but a rack grade looks more along the lines of what I wanted.

The Service Grades are probably the guns that were rebuilt and put in War Stores in the late 1980's. They were rebuilt with NOS parts (both WW II and post-war). The frames and slides were reparked. The Navy did theirs at NWS Crane, Ind. They hired 50 extra gunsmiths at the time to do the work. I was training the Auxiliary Security Force at NS Long Beach, Ca. at the time. I ordered 50 M1911A1's for them. I received what looked to be 50 brand new pistols. They did a good job.

Even the Rack Grades will be quite a crapshoot. If you get a matching slide and frame, go get a lottery ticket.

 

[pmanton]

Do they actually require membership in a club or will military service, combat duty, etc be accepted?

 

[AJ]

Do they actually require membership in a club or will military service, combat duty, etc be accepted?

They will want to see a DD-214 and membership in an accepted organization. Garand Collectors' Association will do, their dues are $25.00 a year. That gets you in the door at CMP and GCA gives you 4 nice full color magazines a year on Garands.

 

[JohnRippert]

Got my paperwork filled out except for a signature. Will visit the notary tomorrow. If you are over 60 you don't need proof of shooting proficiency any more. I am a GCA member, so in it will go and the wait will begin.

 

[Ky6906fan]

One is enough for me.

 

[waffles]

I got a Round 2 rack grade with a 1943 Ithaca frame and ithaca slide. Barrel is postwar, and the frame has a SA re arsenal mark and appears to have an old, matching refinish. I've owned a field and service purchased from friends, the service was a 1941 Colt frame with a RR slide, the field was IIRC a RR frame with a postwar colt slide. Both had much worse triggers and safety fit than the rack grade does. Both of those pistols sold for far more than the CMP charged for them, and more than current CMP prices. If you're at all thinking you might want one, it's a pretty easy dice roll. I'm going to submit another packet to try my hand at a Range grade if it's available. Some of those turned out to be very, very cool.

 

[Grayfox]

I'm still debating this. I got a pretty well used gun in the first round. I already had one G.I. issue pistol. So that makes two I already have.
If I knew for sure I'd get one of the fresh arsenal rebuilds this time, I'd go for it. But you don't get a choice. Just not sure if I wanna take the chance.

 

[AJ]

I'm still debating this. I got a pretty well used gun in the first round. I already had one G.I. issue pistol. So that makes two I already have.
If I knew for sure I'd get one of the fresh arsenal rebuilds this time, I'd go for it. But you don't get a choice. Just not sure if I wanna take the chance.

Grayfox,

I have perused the offerings. My thoughts are the Service Grades would be the best chance for a rebuilt pistol that were in war stores possibly. The Field Grades are more like we would draw from the armory. As the saying goes"You pays your dime and you takes your chance!".

AJ

 

[Golddollar]

My application is going in the mail tomorrow.

Edit: It's on its way!

Edit: The Post Office reported that CMP received my application.

 

[jmiles1960]

I am happy with Service Grade 1911A1 CMP pistol (3rd Round / May 2023). Ithaca frame, Remington Rand slide, mix of other parts, post-war barrel. Decent arsenal refinish. Most of the markings well intact. Shoots very nice too. No complaints. Submit your application, wait patiently, you will get picked. Good luck!

 

[Chubbs103]

I'm torn. Ever since I read you could get a second pistol, I have been contemplating it. I should probably be happy with the one I have.

In the second round, My paperwork was damaged at an indecent there. Once they were pretty far past my RGN, I started calling. They told me what happened, and I had to resubmit my paperwork (complete with a trip to the notary).

Once my paper work was resubmitted, the woman handling my order said they would make up for the inconvenience. I received a matching (and by everything I can tell correct) Ithaca. What little remains of the finish looks original. There are no indications it has ever been through an arsenal for a rebuild. It is more accurate than it should be considering the sights.

The only possible downside is that is was a summer 1945 manufacture, so it is unlikely to have WWII history.

Long story short, I couldn't be happier with my Field Grade. A second one would probably bring disappointment.

 

[alwslate]

Looked at the prices $1050 for a rack grade. Three times the price of some of the quality imports these days. I'll pass. Just don't see anything that justifies the price unless you see it as some kind of long term investment. But... your money, your choice as how to spend it.

 

[AJ]

Looked at the prices $1050 for a rack grade. Three times the price of some of the quality imports these days. I'll pass. Just don't see anything that justifies the price unless you see it as some kind of long term investment. But... your money, your choice as how to spend it.

The same can be said for you, your money, your choice. Yes, the imports do seem to be good firearms. If you want one to modify then those are where I would be looking. If you want a piece of history then you go with a military M1911A1. I have owned several M1911A1's in my time, was assigned one for 20 of 24 years in the Corps. I have gotten out of the collection phase and just want shooters now. I own a couple of older Colt commercial models and a Ruger SR1911 10MM. So my choice. Some folks want a piece of history so CMP fulfills that. Look at the asking prices of U.S. issue M1911's on the open market, to me what I see from CMP is a deal.