wlp624
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Wow Paul, that's some serious philosophizing!
Now I'm gonna spend all afternoon visualizing that transformation. 
And stunning work on the grips, er, I mean stocks!
Coke Bottle (Grip) Restoration, thanks DWFan!
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Wow Paul, that's some serious philosophizing!
Now I'm gonna spend all afternoon visualizing that transformation. And stunning work on the grips, er, I mean stocks!
tlay
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I am about to open up a huge can of worms! But I like worms. I too had a pair of cokes refinished by DWFAN. They turned out great! Everyone loves it when a beat up set of grips gets new life and gets refinished.
But I also had to have a pre-29 that someone ground the side plate down refinished. It too turned out beautiful! I posted it and you would have thought I had shown a photo of mother Mary in her undies!
Why can we look at a refinished pair of grips and see beauty and see an abomination in a refinished gun? This was my first refinished gun. I have since learned how to refinish and restore my own guns. I have started doing jobs for a LGS. I see the beauty in what a beat-up and abused gun can become. I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder is fit for this situation!!
But I also had to have a pre-29 that someone ground the side plate down refinished. It too turned out beautiful! I posted it and you would have thought I had shown a photo of mother Mary in her undies!
Why can we look at a refinished pair of grips and see beauty and see an abomination in a refinished gun? This was my first refinished gun. I have since learned how to refinish and restore my own guns. I have started doing jobs for a LGS. I see the beauty in what a beat-up and abused gun can become. I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder is fit for this situation!!
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I am about to open up a huge can of worms! But I like worms. I too had a pair of cokes refinished by DWFAN. They turned out great! Everyone loves it when a beat up set of grips gets new life and gets refinished.
But I also had to have a pre-29 that someone ground the side plate down refinished. It too turned out beautiful! I posted it and you would have thought I had shown a photo of mother Mary in her undies!
Why can we look at a refinished pair of grips and see beauty and see an abomination in a refinished gun? This was my first refinished gun. I have since learned how to refinish and restore my own guns. I have started doing jobs for a LGS. I see the beauty in what a beat-up and abused gun can become. I guess the beauty is in the eye of the beholder is fit for this situation!!
I hear you...why can you restore a classic car and that is accepted and valued but if you restore a gun or a vintage guitar you have broken one of the Commandments?
donadler
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05CarbonDRZ
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I have often wondered the same thing,Ecspecially when talking about Factory refinished Guns.I just don't see why most value them at 1/2 the price of an original Gun.If you had your Ferrari completely restored at the Factory would it only be worth 1/2 as much?
I am no car expert by any stretch of the imagination however, every car show that I watch on TV talks about finding the holy grail of cars with original paint and an unmolested motor and matching numbers.
In gun collecting, and I am only speaking at the purist level, a gun in original new condition in its original box with all of its papers and tools is like finding the ark and is priced accordingly. That is why a purist collector frowns on those who "gather" these items and assemble a "package". You may know it's a package but will the guy who buys it 50 years from now.
A gun refinished at the factory is considered less detrimental because it is done by the same folks and with the same process as it was done originally. It still reduces the "original" factor to a purist collector but is not as bad as having it done at bubba's bumper shop.
Unfortunately, with the advent of the internet, sellers think that because they have a gun in very good shape that it should bring the same high price as an original package as it shipped from the factory. As long as buyers pay those crazy prices, sellers will continue to ask them.
You add to the mix folks that have money to burn but no real understanding of the game and they will pay the same price for a naked gun as someone else just paid for an original package.
So it all depends on where you are in the collecting world. Some guys would see no harm in shooting a NIB package that they found because it's just a tool and that's what it was made for. Your gun, your decision but a purist collector would never do that.
That's why they make chocolate and vanilla. Different strokes for different folks.
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The anticipation of waiting for the grips to come back is so exciting. I need to find another pair to send in...when you open that box, it is like Christmas when you're a kid.
05CarbonDRZ
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do restored stocks on a gun hurt the value of the gun ?
OP
Except You had to pay for the Gift inside....
Fair enough, ha! But well worth it.
OP
Well, that's a loaded question...usually a gun that needs grip restoration is not in very good shape as well. You do not find mint stocks on an 85% gun unless they were taken off and replaced with another pair of stocks.
If you restore a pair of 1978 K Magna grips, you'll never get you're money back. You are putting more into them than they are worth. A restored pair of Cokes just brought $568 on eBay. So, a restoration of Paul's quality is warranted and justified. Only some stocks are worth saving.
DWFAN
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One thing I've always prided myself on was the fact that if your stocks were not worth saving I would tell you that and not just take your money. Value is also subjective on your part. Was it your fathers or grandfathers gun? Numbered to the gun? Hard to find stocks? I just sold a pair of restored Cokes on Ebay last month for $720. I did disclose that they were restored. Value is up to the client most times. I can only advise what I think is fair to you and let you decide. I would never exploit anyone just to make a dollar.
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